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Poll: Trump’s entry into the race would hurt Palin the most
Hotair ^ | March 23,2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/23/2011 8:01:22 PM PDT by Hojczyk

It’s weird to think of him pulling votes from anyone, but … Palin? The candidate with the single most devoted base in the entire field?

Draw me a Venn diagram of their respective constituencies, please.

Ten percent of Republicans and independents who lean Republican say they would most likely support Trump for the GOP’s 2012 presidential nomination.

That would place him fifth on the list behind former Arkansas Gov. and 2008 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee at 19 percent, former Massachusetts Gov. and 2008 White House hopeful Mitt Romney at 18 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 14 percent, and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin at 12 percent…

“Removing Trump’s name from the list and allocating his voters to their second choice gives Huckabee 21 percent and Romney 19 percent – essentially unchanged from January. In a Trump-less field, Gingrich gets 15 percent, up from 10 percent in January, and Paul goes from 7 percent to 11 percent. Palin is the big loser, dropping from 19 percent in a no-Trump round in January to just 13 percent now,” adds Holland.

That’s the fun part of the poll. The less fun part is that Democratic enthusiasm has jumped to 56 percent, trimming a 22-point Republican advantage to … just six. I’m trying hard not to attribute that to a backlash on the left against Wisconsin, but it’s the most compelling explanation I can think of.

As for the Trump/Palin overlap, maybe there’s a portion of disengaged Republican voters who tilt towards the candidate with the highest name recognition. Normally that’s Sarah, but That Guy From “The Apprentice” out-celebrities even her. Similarly, could be that some righties are looking to liven up the debates for fear of a Romney/Pawlenty/Gingrich/Daniels soporific nightmare. Palin and Trump would both achieve that. Or maybe some of Palin’s support right now is as a protest vote by people disaffected with the establishment GOP. I’m skeptical of that, though, since protest votes don’t normally go to candidates like her who can actually win.

If the Trump vote is coming from people who are simply looking to spoil a ballot as a kiss-off to the top contenders in the field, I would think he’d be pulling more from someone like Ron Paul (who actually finished two points behind Trump) than from her.

All theories welcome. Via JWF, here he is


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To: Hojczyk

The Donald is doing what he always will do: build the Trump brand.

He is the most brazen un-apologetic self promoting huckster I’ve ever seen. That doesn’t mean I don’t somehow like him, I just understand where he comes from.


21 posted on 03/23/2011 8:16:14 PM PDT by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: RockinRight

Much would depend on whom Trump picked to staff his administration. An executive like him knows that he cannot possibly oversee his whole empire personally and needs trustworthy subordinates. Nothing would stop him from picking Sarah Palin as a veep, and this time around Trump (unlike John McCain) would let out enough chain to allow Palin to chew up Obama eight ways from Sunday. And he might latch onto other notable GOP firebrands like Bachmann, DeMint, and Herman Cain if Sarah Palin has his ear. And why not John McCain for D.C. dogcatcher, as a consolation prize.


22 posted on 03/23/2011 8:16:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: CedarDave

At least Trump earned his ego.


23 posted on 03/23/2011 8:17:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: GoCards

>> I cant figure Trump out...

He’s a star, and I hope he enters the primaries alone to crank up viewership. A back-n-forth between he and Palin would be phenomenal!


24 posted on 03/23/2011 8:18:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: RockinRight

Then your friends need to look a little deeper into Trumps background. He’s no conservative and I am now beginning to think he is a Democrat plant.


25 posted on 03/23/2011 8:18:19 PM PDT by curth (SarahPac: Nearing 3 million Facebook members! Are you in for $20.12?)
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To: moodyskeptic
He is the most brazen un-apologetic self promoting huckster I’ve ever seen. That doesn’t mean I don’t somehow like him, I just understand where he comes from.

Ditto. Doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for him. It'd be good for a laugh, and America deserves him--or worse.

26 posted on 03/23/2011 8:19:13 PM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: Huck

Technically he’s never personally been bankrupt, but yeah, his businesses have at various times.

However, under Obama the COUNTRY is going bankrupt. If I have to choose between a community organizer of dubious national loyalty, and a businessman who has fallen and come back again several times, at least we know the businessman CAN come back. The other guy, well, not so much.

Palin’s unelectable. Huckabee? Blech. Mitt? No. Pawlenty? Maybe. Daniels? Maybe. Cain? HELL YEAH...but he needs to gain some traction pronto.

That might all mean Trump by default. No pun intended.


27 posted on 03/23/2011 8:19:21 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

IF (big IF) he could get through the primaries, I think Trump would beat Obama handily. He could probably even win NY.


28 posted on 03/23/2011 8:21:17 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: RockinRight

Palin is as good as elected.

Trump is irrelevant.


29 posted on 03/23/2011 8:22:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: RockinRight

Palin would be “unelectable” in normal times, but these aren’t normal times. The average American would sooner see a ham sandwich be President than get a second Obama term. Short of a mushy candidate on the order of John McCain who says his opponent would be a perfectly fine president, the GOP candidate will be a shoo-in.


30 posted on 03/23/2011 8:23:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Hojczyk

31 posted on 03/23/2011 8:23:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: curth

A Democrat plant, really? Who could possibly buy off Trump or convince him to do ANYTHING that he wasn’t doing on his own accord?

He’s not as conservative as I’d like, but economically, he can do what has to be done. He’s even hinted at a pro-life stance (not sure where I heard that but it was a couple different times).


32 posted on 03/23/2011 8:24:14 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: Hojczyk

That means Palin has star power. She has the conservative base + the fickle masses if someone like Trumpboy doesn’t mess things up.


33 posted on 03/23/2011 8:24:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hojczyk
Trump is kicking a$$ and taking names. He is the first Presidential hopeful to make the Birth Certificate a national issue again in a rational way. Going on The View with a pack of Socialists and a RINO and making the statement he did was fantastic. Everybody else on the GOP side makes strange twisted comments instead of answering yes or no on this.

No matter what he does, you gotta love this guys confidence and balls. Plus his wife is smokin' hot.


34 posted on 03/23/2011 8:24:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: RockinRight

Cain has no shot. Not even worth thinking about. I like Daniels, which means he has no chance (no one I like ever does.) I’ve pretty much sunk into political nihilism anyway. I’m just here to enjoy the absurd spectacle.


35 posted on 03/23/2011 8:24:41 PM PDT by Huck (Fools make feasts and wise men eat them - Poor Richard)
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To: TheBigIf

He voted for Bush both times...but he did sour on him big time in the second term. He was strongly against Iraq and probably had more than a few criticisms on his economic leadership.


36 posted on 03/23/2011 8:25:14 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: editor-surveyor

In who’s universe?

Palin is damaged goods. I like her, a lot, but she’s still damaged goods.


37 posted on 03/23/2011 8:25:14 PM PDT by RockinRight (I once had my identity stolen. Once they got to know me, they gave it back right away.)
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To: Hojczyk

“Barf”.


38 posted on 03/23/2011 8:25:55 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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To: Lachisula

Yes Donald has a way about him. IMO Barry’s worst nightmare is that Trump makes this a big issue. At some point he will back Barry into a corner and its just too bad some of our spineless congress critters have not done this already.


39 posted on 03/23/2011 8:25:55 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hojczyk

No thanks to Trump. Among other things- He can’t even run a company without bankrupting it. How does anyone believe he can run a country. And that is just for starters.


40 posted on 03/23/2011 8:26:27 PM PDT by Revel
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