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Even In Worst Case, Japan’s Nuclear Disaster Will Have Limited Reach
Pro Publica : Journalism in the Public Interest ^ | 03/21/2011 | Abrahm Lustgarten

Posted on 03/21/2011 11:22:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/21/2011 11:23:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Worse than TMI, but not NEARLY as bad as Chernobyl.

Much closer to TMI than to Chernobyl, in other words.


2 posted on 03/21/2011 11:26:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When all is said and done, this was a huge story about little.

The real tragedy is the quake and the tsunami, but apparently “reality” isn’t good enough for the lame stream media,


3 posted on 03/21/2011 11:27:42 AM PDT by Red6
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To: SeekAndFind

If this turns out to be true, this will deeply sadden FR’s resident Drama Queens.


4 posted on 03/21/2011 11:29:16 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Red6

The MSM sure is pushing the worst case views about radiation sickness and contamination, and radiation clouds and all that.

The enviro liberals will not let this crisis go to waste. They will use it to clamp down on any further nuclear expansion.


5 posted on 03/21/2011 11:30:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Allegra
this will deeply sadden FR’s resident Drama Queens

They'll just move on to the next crisis as the MSM leads them.

The gullibility around here is quite thick these days.

6 posted on 03/21/2011 11:31:35 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Allegra
Careful now, you might offend some.

Is your count down clock started yet?

7 posted on 03/21/2011 11:35:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Red6

One of the worst things about the nuclear problem at Fukishima is that it distracts from the horrific toll from the earthquake and tsunami and certainly hampered relief efforts.


8 posted on 03/21/2011 11:37:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well i don´t know but the radiation in tokio has raised from 14 cpm (yesterday) to 25 cpm right now.
And the wetter forecast says that in the next hours the wind will change and blows straight to tokio + rain is expected.
But as said 25 cpm is not much (for example the US starts warning when 126 cpm are reached).
But the levels will definitely raise when it starts to rain in the next hours.


9 posted on 03/21/2011 11:39:33 AM PDT by darkside321
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btw. here is a live geiger counter from Tokio.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/%E3%82%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%82%A6%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF


10 posted on 03/21/2011 11:41:41 AM PDT by darkside321
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won’t staying indoors and sealing the windows keep people from the worst of it?


11 posted on 03/21/2011 11:43:24 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: thackney
Careful now, you might offend some.

They'll just have to get over it.

Is your count down clock started yet?

Not yet...I'll wait until I'm at about 30 days. Or at least until I have my flight itinerary. :)

I am very much looking forward to being home for a while.

12 posted on 03/21/2011 11:43:24 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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Peter Caracappa, a nuclear engineer at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, in Troy, N.Y. “Based on all the available information, the risk to any of the places far from the plant … would be too small to calculate with any confidence.

On April 27, 1953, at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York, Professor Herbert Clark and his students entered a metal shack that served as a laboratory for their radiochemistry class. All the Geiger counters were registering radiation many times the normal rate. The students carried the radiation measuring devices to areas on campus noting the high readings. Assuming the previous night's heavy rains had washed some atmospheric radiation onto the campus, Dr. Clark contacted John Harley, an associate at the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission's Health and Safety office in New York City. Dr. Clark summarized the details of campus measurements from his class. Gamma radiation on the ground was ten to five hundred times normal; beta ray radiation was even higher and hot spots of even high readings were found in rainspouts and puddles.

Later that day, Dr. Clark learned there had been an atomic bomb test conducted by the AEC in the Nevada desert two days earlier. The mushroom cloud had reached 40,000 feet into the atmosphere then drifted 2,300 miles across the United States in a northeasterly direction. It passed over Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania before being caught up in a storm that dropped rain on upstate New York, southern Vermont and parts of Massachusetts.

Dr. Clark's students took their geiger counters on the road and began measuring the radioactivity on the ground, roof shingles and vegetation wherever they stopped in Albany, Saratoga Springs, and Schenectady, New York. Typical readings were twenty to one hundred times higher than normal. This has become known as "the Troy incident."

Surprisingly, they found that it was comparable to that reported the previous year by the AEC’s New York Laboratory for fallout in desert areas only 200 to 500 miles from the point of detonation at the Nevada test site itself.

13 posted on 03/21/2011 11:47:51 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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For what it’s worth;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2691725/posts?page=46#46

Days to receive dose for increase cancer risk of 1 in a 1,000
432 (at 100 CPM)
86 (at 500 CPM)
28 (at 1,500 CPM)
4 (at 10,000 CPM)

Days for earliest onset of radiation sickness
25,937 (at 100 CPM)
5,187 (at 500 CPM)
1,729 (at 1,500 CPM)
259 (at 10,000 CPM)


14 posted on 03/21/2011 11:49:27 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: utherdoul

Well at least this will protect you from a dirrect radioactive contamination (if this happens because its not a given fact that this will definitely happen).
But for example some elements like caesium 137 haf a “half life” of 30 years. So you won´t escape this one once it get into the ground.
(Yay only about 5 years here then half of the caesium we got (1200 km away from tschernobyl “but it rained heavily when the radioactive clouds passed by”) will go away ;-)


15 posted on 03/21/2011 11:52:08 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if the radiation at the plant itsself is any indication of what will spread. In other words how can radiation be worse than anywhere but at the plant itself?? If any want to know what actual radiation levels are at the plant check these links;

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/index-e.html

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/

Watch these sites for current radiation levels which right now are around 500 micro Sv or .5 m/Sv.

Here’s the latest information about the radiation levels at a location inside the plant itself; http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110321-1.pdf

Note that Iodine-131 has a half-life of 8.02 days meaning it’s radiation hazard will diminsh very quickly.


16 posted on 03/21/2011 11:59:36 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Realism

Interesting and good catch.


17 posted on 03/21/2011 12:04:54 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Realism

The difference between atomic bomb testing and Fukushima Daiichi is Fukushima Daiichi did not punch a bunch of radiation into the upper atmosphere - it’s not up there to come down in the form of rain.


18 posted on 03/21/2011 12:06:06 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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Photobucket Just for example this maps shows some of the radiation in the USA right now. You will see in some places (and this radiotion exists since years) is even higher than in tokio right now. So nothing to worry at the moment. Btw. all the yellow numbers are cpm
19 posted on 03/21/2011 12:07:08 PM PDT by darkside321
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“won’t staying indoors and sealing the windows keep people from the worst of it?”

If the Ruskies dropped a nuke on Dallas and you lived in Fort Worth, I would say it would be a good plan. But for this, it would have meant you missed being outdoors on such a nice day. And what a waste of tape.

20 posted on 03/21/2011 12:09:48 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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