Posted on 03/21/2011 8:14:32 AM PDT by doug from upland
That could very well have happened.
It's also possible that the little kids father was beat up by the big kids father last week, and the little kid was just trying to defend his fathers good name.
And the mothers also got into it a few weeks ago, which doesn't appear on the video either.
Seesh, the attempt to excuse bad behavior seem to be a mission of yours, just as it is the stronghold of Liberals everywhere also.
Yeah, i noticed that. but what were those two doing will the fat kid was getting pounded? that was ok with them? they just stood there? that is also sick
Now I’m a liberal or just like a liberal, pretty funny. I think you have demonstrated a tendency to jump to conclusions regarding me, and the video.
If there is a back story fine. But the video itself lasts seconds. When it opens the little kid already is throwing punches. Does that mean he struck first? No. Does it mean he is a bully? No. He may well be but I can’t tell that without seeing him walk up and start it.
Seconds later he gets his ass promptly kicked. Therefore I cannot know from the video alone, who started this, who was the bully and who the victim. And neither can you.
It seems to me that jumping to conclusions over a partial video and insisting on knowing what happened is the M.O. of LIBERALS viewing, for example, the Rodney King police tape.
My entire point was the video alone does not tell the story of what happened. I was shocked to see the “bully” was half the size of the victim. But thanks for the insults.
Never said you were. Read what I posted.
Seems like video comprehension may not be your only comprehension problem.
Balding Eagle can’t you play nice? It’s a youtube video. Did I attack you for your interpretation of the video?
If you don’t want to be attacked, don’t defend bad guys.
I did no such thing and I don’t think you’re being very nice.
Stating the video itself was not sufficient to determine what happened is not defending bad guys. I guess you have taken the definitiveness of this short video to be a great cause worth fighting for. Good luck with that.
Bullies like to impress their friends by picking on those who seem weak or defenseless. In this video, the bully has two friends who are laughing, enjoying, and making a video to record the bully's actions to torment the big kid. This is the only way to interpret it using what we call ‘common sense’.
I was introduced to bullying on a playground when I was probably 4 years old by a kid who threatened me with a sharp stick. Then again in the 5th grade by a kid who had been held back a grade or two. If he liked my nice pencil, it was his. I gave it to him because I was afraid of him. But he ‘liked’ me so no one else picked on me. When I move to California later that year, some kids decided to ‘bully the new kid’ so they picked at me every day trying to pick a fight. But I was a shy kid and didn't want to get into trouble at school knowing the trouble I'd get into at home. Finally, I decided I'd have to take a beating (better from the bully than my old man) so I said ‘let's fight but not here, let's go over to the Park because I don't want a teacher to break us up’. He thought about it for a minute and decided it wasn't worth the effort (or the risk) and they left me alone.
I raised 5 sons and taught them things like ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’, ‘watch out for each other’, and ‘don't start a fight but if pressed, be sure to finish it.’ In 10th grade, one son was in a boarding school and was being picked on relentlessly by a kid (in their group of friends) to the point of an actual permanent injury to an eye. During his holiday visit he told me about the kid but couldn't understand why he was being picked on. I explained the concept of a basic animal behavior called ‘pecking order’ and how bullies like to pick on others, putting them ‘down’ in order to elevate themselves in the ‘pecking order’. I told him to carefully pick a time when all of their friends were there and when the kid picked on him, go ‘beserker’ on him, grab him around the neck, throw him to the ground and start pounding his face. I told him his friends would eventually pull him off the kid and that once the story got around, no one would ever attempt to mess with him again. When he returned to school, such a time occurred in gym class, the bully began to mess with him and the bully was surprised by the quickness of my son who took him down and started pounded his face (while the gym teacher ‘turned and looked in the other direction’) for a few minutes. Word got around and no one ever tried to pick on him again.
I could give you more examples but if you don't get it by now, it would be a waste of my time. Needless to say, no matter what school they were in, no one ever tried to bully one of my kids more than once after that. If our schools were able to nip this kind of behavior in the bud, they would but sometimes they can't unless they are forced by the parents.
As parents we have to have an open dialogue with our kids and find out what's going on at school. If we don't, we can't help them through these really rough periods in their lives. Many a child has committed suicide because of these relentless attacks on their persons and self esteem.
It's hard for most folks to understand but it goes on every day, in almost every school. Parents need to talk to their kids at an early age and explain it to them so they'll know how to deal with it the correct way (fighting is not the best way, but sometimes it's the only way). Get school officials involved early, with a personal visit and using written correspondence (in case legal action is required later). You put enough heat on the school and hopefully they'll take action. If you ever see this kind of behavior going on, I would hope you'd step in and stop it. These bullies need to be put in their place. Good job Casey.
Let’s be clear, I was exposed to TONS of bullying. I once quite foolishly fought back and jumped one of our schools top wrestlers, resulting in me being in a headlock of course.
The version of the video I saw and which I believe was at the link, was extremely short. One kid throwing punches, the other immediately picking him up and finishing him off.
That and only that is why I was surprised people were so sure the VIDEO on its own, told the story.
last night on Greta, I caught a glimpse of a longer version with the smaller kid dancing around and throwing punches.
I know all about bullying, don’t support bullies, support the victims. I simply and only reacted to the version of the video which I saw, I never disputed the existence of a back story or that the big kid was, in reality, being bullied.
Nor did I ever defend the little kid, I simply said the video I saw didn’t explain what happened in terms of the bullying story.
I do appreciate and identify with the story you related.
And lastly, I have myself posted a great story from my childhood in which my (formerly) wimpy friend was being beaten up by the neighborhood bully, until the much bigger bully made the mistake of kicking him in the groin, at which point my friend went completely ape and beat the crap out of the bully with a flurry of punches.
I hope that clears things up.
My apologies are in order as we didn't see the same clip. I had seen a longer clip before coming to this forum (didn't know there was a ‘shorter’ version) and in it, you could hear the comments and laughing of his companions as they watched him approach and start slugging the bigger kid. That longer clip left no doubt as to what was going on. All three of the aggressors should have been suspended.
I had also heard an audio clip of an interview with the bullied kid on Glenn Beck in which Casey admitted being so depressed about the bullying that he had thought of suicide a year ago. Very sad indeed.
But even with the clip the reporter had shortened, you could see the big kid taking a nonaggressive stand. Had he been the aggressor in an earlier conflict, he would have been expecting retaliation. When you expect trouble, you would at least take a defensive stand. The smaller kid is obviously the aggressor. Plus we all know that reporters never, ever, try to mislead the audience, right? ;-P
I remember real justice, the kid who ruled the playground in the first through 5th grades who quit growing in the 6th and became a short runt in high school...payback’s rough.
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