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Serious Doubts Raised About Obama's War In Libya
FoxNation ^ | March 20, 2011 | FoxNation

Posted on 03/20/2011 1:12:27 PM PDT by Clairity

On Saturday, President Obama while visiting Brazil launched a United Nations war without obtaining Congressional approval. We all must remember how the left crucified President George W. Bush over a 9 month debate concerning war with Iraq. This debate included multiple UN Resolutions and a Multi-National Force composed of dozens of nations. Many refer to this time of debate as a "rush to war." Yesterday however, President Obama approved the launch of Tomahawk missiles effectively engaging us in a Libyan civil war. This decision came with no debate in Congress and one UN Resolution that was only voted on 48 hours before.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: breachofpower; congress; libya; obama; obamawar; un; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: RKBA Democrat

I agree, Mo’s a chump and needs to go down.

But can’t we use those economical A-10s and 30mm DU rounds to shred his stuff instead of high priced cruise missles?


21 posted on 03/20/2011 1:41:10 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Navy Patriot

“What’s good for Americans and America is the farthest thing from his mind....”

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He made that abundantly clear during the 2008 elections but the country voted him in anyway thanks to the eunuch GOP that did not dare to call him on his eligibility (and still doesn’t).


22 posted on 03/20/2011 1:44:09 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: RKBA Democrat

I’ll agree with this point of view when a current US official portrays this as vengeance for that. Barack Obama could GAF about that.


23 posted on 03/20/2011 1:48:55 PM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: dfwgator

Isn’t it ironic that O and Hillary were opposed to any form of maneuvers until the ARAB nations asked for his help? Maybe he switched directions because of his loyal Islamic upbringing?


24 posted on 03/20/2011 1:48:58 PM PDT by spiderfern
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Exactly right! We should have taken Kadaffy out back in 1986 but he has festered ever since. It took him no time at all to start threatening terrorist attacks against the World.

We have an outstanding opportunity to cleanse the World gene pool, and we shouldn’t squander it any longer. Regardless of how long it took us to get here, we have finally arrived.

“The wise man does all at once what the fool does finally”

Machiavelli


25 posted on 03/20/2011 1:54:01 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!I)
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To: DWC
Of course Bush would not have gone to Rio, he tended to mind the store much better than Zer0.

The point I was making about Bush is that consulted and deliberated amply before pulling the trigger, and he always had citeable acts of war to respond to, making his actions unquestionably legal. He was far from a publicity hound, much more open with his administration, and (I am convinced) he was genuinely concerned about any consequences to Americans and America, considering them of very high importance.

I often criticize Bush, but he always defaulted to pro America policy.

26 posted on 03/20/2011 1:54:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: nascarnation

“But can’t we use those economical A-10s and 30mm DU rounds to shred his stuff instead of high priced cruise missles?”

Accuracy counts. If it takes a few hundred cruise missles to take the butcher of tripoli out, then it’s money well spent.


27 posted on 03/20/2011 1:54:28 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’m ambivalent about this because war has not been declared (well, is it or isn’t it? Commit to a decision either way), the goal has not been stated (you don’t attack a country just to give internal opposition an edge), and insofar as this is obviously about regime change there is no indication of what to change the regime to.

Declare war, go in full force, and set up a new specified government.
All in, or don’t bother.

Bush’s mistakes were not declaring war outright, and not having an organization ready to fill the power vacuum as fast as we took the prior regime down. The Obama is failing to heed these lessons; nay, it seems he has no idea what he’s in this for.


28 posted on 03/20/2011 1:54:54 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: John W

“I’ll agree with this point of view when a current US official portrays this as vengeance for that.”

I don’t care what the stated policy is so long as the butcher of tripoli is at room temperature when all is said and done. Since when do politicians state their real motivations anyway?


29 posted on 03/20/2011 2:00:28 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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To: Bean Counter

Should have taken him out back in the 80s, when we had some confidence that his opposition wouldn’t be any worse.


30 posted on 03/20/2011 2:04:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 353FMG
but the country voted him in anyway thanks to the eunuch GOP

Unfortunately, you speak the truth.

I still believe it is wise to try to get the country to vote him OUT in '12, by hoisting him on his own antiwar petard, using ALL the leftist propaganda points against him.

31 posted on 03/20/2011 2:06:15 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Clairity
I would rather have the devil that fears us then the uncertainty of who will come to power when Qaddafi is gone
32 posted on 03/20/2011 2:06:42 PM PDT by South Dakota (Drill baby, drill)
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To: dfwgator

yah...I was in the gulf of Sidra in ‘86 and we damn sure tried, but Congress didn’t have the guts to go after him then either.


33 posted on 03/20/2011 2:06:56 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!I)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

What I am hoping for is that the arab world breaks down into city states which cannot be assembled into a caliphate. This soes seem to unintentially further that outcome.


34 posted on 03/20/2011 2:08:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I consider this payback for Pam Am 103...

This has NOTHING to do with Pan Am 103. For one thing = bahmbi could care less about dead Americans.

Also, Reagan gave him a smart bomb straight through his front door - LITERALLY. It killed his young son.

That pulled his horns in for some time.

Then Bush backed him into a corner = where he agreed to get rid of his WMD and to help monitor shipments of arms to Iran and the PLO.

Quadaffi also hates Al Qaeda. They are deadly enemies.

I think it more likely that the above has bahmnbi upset with Quadaffi that more anything else.

You don't find it a bit unsettling that Al Qaeda has announced it's approval of bahmbis move? (Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that bahmbi is following their orders. They are friends, after all.)

35 posted on 03/20/2011 2:11:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: maine-iac7
This has NOTHING to do with Pan Am 103. For one thing = bahmbi could care less about dead Americans.

Exactly.

36 posted on 03/20/2011 2:13:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: maine-iac7

It was Obama who helped get the mastermind of Lockerbie released.


37 posted on 03/20/2011 2:14:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Navy Patriot

Does the country know the difference between left and right?


38 posted on 03/20/2011 2:23:46 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I consider this payback for Pam Am 103...

This has NOTHING to do with Pan Am 103. For one thing = bahmi could care less about dead Americans.

Also, REagan gave him a smart bomb straight through his front door - LITERALLY. It killed his young son.

That pulled his horns in for some time.

Then Bush backed him into a corner = where he agreed to get rid of his WMD and to help monitor shipments of arms to Iran and the PLO.

Quadaffi also hates Al Qaeda. They are deadly enemies.

I think it more likely that the above has bahmnbi upset with Quadaffi that anything else.

You don't find it a bit unsettling thta Al Qaeda has announced it's approval of bahmbis move?

39 posted on 03/20/2011 2:34:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Clairity
This was a double diss. Two middle fingers raised at America. By Obama the hater.

First Middle Finger Raised: (1) I, Obama the Dictator, am sending YOUR children, fathers, brothers and husbands to a war I, and I alone, have declared. A war where I ally you with the same enemies and same motives of those forces that attacked you on 9/11, at the USS Cole, in Somalia, and at Beirut. A war for no clear purpose, of no clear outcome -- a war that will go on and on drawing your blood and wealth away from you.

I spurn and mock your elected representatives, your Constitution, your historical precedents. I have no regard but spite for your opinion, for your laws, America. I, Obama, order you to fight and die, just because I can, because I hate you. I hate America, I hate your power, I will ruin it forever, and poison you from within, and your pride and hope, your heritage will change -- it will rot off. Your limbs will turn putrid and drop off you as you watch.

I, Obama, and my beloved partner Micehlle, enjoy every bit of the frustration, despair and agony we will force you to suffer.

Second Middle Finger Raised: To show you how little I care for you America, how much I despise you I give this order -- I shall display my absolute power over you and my utter disdain for you by issuing that order to you, you scum, you trash -- here come your chickens home to roost, America -- while I, the One, the PRESIDENT, the WINNER, YOUR COMMANDER, your COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, -- am not even in your country. Instead I give this order, like a ancient LORD lifts a pinky to order another peeled grape from the slaves in waiting, on his pleasure yacht in the Nile, while I and my posse are on a grand pleasure trip to Brazil, where the third world elite and the barrio-dwellers both adore me, as me, the great Obama.

Now go you American scum, and suffer for My Imperial Amusement!

Pitt has lost, my brackets are busted, I must find my pleasures and delights otherwise. So go, you red-state dogs and worms -- I order your beloved ones to fall to calamities of my creation.

40 posted on 03/20/2011 2:43:43 PM PDT by bvw
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