Posted on 03/20/2011 4:13:01 AM PDT by Scanian
Politics seems to have become a sort of mental illness. We have no bloody business in Libya, and no idea what we hope to achieve there.
We are daily told that we have no money to spare. We have just scrapped a large part of our Navy.
Our Army is stuck in an Afghan war whose point nobody can explain. And now we have set out on a course that could drag us into a long, gory brawl in North Africa.
And yet, when the Prime Minister announces this folly he is praised. Why? Partly it is because we all watch too much TV. Its reports simplify, then exaggerate.
Reporters, much like politicians, like to feel they are helping to make history, and get excited by subjects they knew nothing about until last Wednesday.
Before we know where we are, we are taking sides in quarrels we don’t understand. Who are the Libyan rebels? What do they want? Why do we love them so?
I’ve no idea, and nor has Mr Cameron, as we discovered when he (yes, it was him, not poor William Hague) sent the SAS to see them and they were welcomed with pitchforks and mockery.
The only sensible policy in Libya is to wait and see who wins, and then make friends with them. If you think this heartless, you are of course right. Foreign policy is heartless. Nice countries end up being conquered or going bankrupt. But it may be no more heartless than our kindly interference.
I pray that this episode ends quickly and cleanly. Perhaps it will. But we cannot know. What if our humanitarian bombs and missiles accidentally kill women and children (which is almost certain)? What if air attacks and distant shelling fail to stop Gaddafi’s forces?
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That is the second time you have spelled “our” as “are.” Is English your first language? And may I ask how old you are?
I don’t remember. It was a long time ago but I believe I used the info that you gain from making a contribution. I didn’t actually believe that I would be grilled over the fact that I had a conversation with a man on a phone.
You are barking up the wrong tree. If I had claimed I had a material conversation with the man then your obsession would make sense. I stated that I talked to a man. Chill out Humble.
My bad. Here is the thing. I don’t care what you think. If I did I would proof read. It is Like Morse Code. Who cares as long as you understand what the other person is saying. If it was a thesis I would care. Chill out. That is the main thing.
That’s the problem, political correctness now rules the world. Obama has taken us to war under the direction of the UN, not our Congress. The prosecution of this war is out of our hands.
First Obama played the role of Jesus Christ, now he is playing Pontius Pilate, washing his hands of the responsibility in settling a dispute between two warring Muslim factions, while footing the bill with US assets.
But we have only spent 100 cruise missiles, other than that I may agree with you. I am too tired to do this any longer. I didn’t think I would get this sucked in.
All I can say is make sure that you convictions are based on solid ground, where ever that is.
Genocide is more likely to happen if Quadaffi thinks he's in danger of losing. If he thinks he can put down the rebellion easily and return to the status quo, then he'll do it with minimum killing, in order to minimize future grudges by the losers. If he thinks he's in danger of losing, then his incentive will be to have his loyal tribes totally exterminate the rebel tribes.
“Chill out.” “Chill out?” Come on, now. What grade are you in? You’re in the 8th grade, right?
The rest is a waste, or, since it will anger but not kill him, more than a waste.
I know what you mean. You were under attack in this thread by a bunch of posters who make a practice of just that, attacking threads with the purpose of shutting them down. It doesn’t matter the topic.
They seem to have their own ping lists on different subjects. I posted an article about death panels that are already up and working in the state of WA and someone from Colorado pinged a bunch of people to confuse the subject and attack me as a liar.
It’s the second time that it has happened, so I knew not to respond to their taunts. Don’t engage them, let them rave and rant. Just respond to other posts, like you did mine.
Our war policies -- dating from the occupation period of Iraq, around 2005 (1) have made us far weaker (2) made radical Islam stronger and more extensive.
What policies in particular? Not matching the obvious military strength with strength in moral, governmental and economic policy. Instead implementing policies that give the soured power, Building from weak foundations. We have done far too much, dumped in money that feeds spite, we have been way too impatient.
A minimalist approach would work better, minimalist with hard demands on some key things -- like no "Allah" on the flag, like freedom and protection for the Christian minorities, like lawful trade with and full recognition of Israel.
>>Killing, fighting or whatever you want to call it with borrowed money?<<
Bankers run America and they say there is a lot of money to be made fighting wars. They will loan money to both sides because they know they can make the winner pay all the costs and give them a healthy profit.
Take a look at the poster's name. He's not kneepadding Obama. He's kneepadding palin.
Shame on you for pointing out the obvious.
BTW, I do know that Sarah the Wise advocated the no-fly zone, but has she weighed in on the current military operation?
“Why can’t we just let the Libyans fight it out (...and then make friends with the winners)”
My thoughts exactly. If Libya is attacking citizens (unarmed) then we should support a no-fly zone. If not, let them fight it out, its their business who controls their country.
I don’t recall hearing anything in the news about large scale atrocities against the civilians by the government before the revolt.
Indeed.
And why lend impetus to other Arab rebel movements which could seriously disrupt oil supplies if they see a rebellion in Libya gain international support?
Oil flow is the only thing that should interest us, so why rock the boat with misplaced idealism?
Liar.
Muslims that pretend to like us are practicing Taqqiya.
Hope what makes me happy?
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