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GOP's defense: Senate rule authored in 1983 by two of 'Wisconsin 14' (Schadenfreude Alert!)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | 3-18-11 | DEE J. JALL

Posted on 03/19/2011 10:21:46 AM PDT by bigbob

Senate Rule 93 says that when the Legislature is in special session, "A notice of a committee meeting is not required other than posting on the legislative bulletin board."

That's the rule Republican leaders are citing in their contention that one of the votes leading up to passage of Gov. Scott Walker's controversial anti-union bill was legal.

One ironic footnote: The rule was written in 1983 by two of the Democratic senators who left Wisconsin last month to avoid voting on the bill, Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, and Sen. Fred Risser, D-Madison.

The two were among 14 senators who fled to Illinois to slow down the bill, which Walker and Republican leaders were fast-tracking through the Legislature.

Cullen said he didn't recall authoring the rule 28 years ago. But, through happenstance, Cullen said he's never criticized the lack of notice for the March 9 meeting of the joint conference committee.

But he remains critical of the speed with which the Legislature sought to pass the measure, which eliminates most collective bargaining rights from 175,000 state and local workers. And he believes the Republican leaders abused the mechanism of the conference committee.

"Conference committees are intended to work out significant differences between the houses," he said. "This may have been the fastest conference committee in history. As far as I can tell, they didn't work out any differences - they just voted."

And Risser said he didn't remember the specific 1983 rule, but questioned its relevance.

"The decision was based on the state open meetings law," he said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: fleebaggers; fleeparty; stupiddems; wijudge; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
This is sweet!

The rule that the Republican majority in the Wisconsin Senate relied on was written by two of the Fleebaggers! Of course when you've been in the same political office longer than many of your constituents have been alive, it's no wonder you get a little feeble-minded.

If a county judge has the power to overrule the actions of the State Senate, then maybe we should turn to a high school student senate to overturn the judge's decision. Makes about as much sense...

1 posted on 03/19/2011 10:21:52 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

the fact that it was written in 1983 by two guys who are STILL in the legislature speaks to an entirely different (though related) problem. Geez, that was nearly 30 years ago.


2 posted on 03/19/2011 10:26:22 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: bigbob

My thought was the same...sweet


3 posted on 03/19/2011 10:27:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: bigbob

Are we certain that this was a special session? If so, why was it a special and not a regular session?


4 posted on 03/19/2011 10:28:13 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: bigbob
The rule that the Republican majority in the Wisconsin Senate relied on was written by two of the Fleebaggers!

Yes, when the DemocRats are in power, they enact rules to wield supreme power, but when Repubs take of the reigns and use these same rules, somehow that's abusive.

Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary and tell me there's not an illustration of a democrat.

5 posted on 03/19/2011 10:32:54 AM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: cdcdawg

THAT was MY thought too....there’s part of the PROBLEM...perpetual politicians.


6 posted on 03/19/2011 10:33:13 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: bigbob

“Conference committees are intended to work out significant differences between the houses,” he said. “This may have been the fastest conference committee in history. As far as I can tell, they didn’t work out any differences - they just voted.”

Doh! That’s because there WERE no differences once the Dems absconded. Everyone was lined up to vote on this up or down and all the ‘down’ votes had fled town. Is he a dummy in real life too?

Lesson: When the rats are away, the elephants will play.


7 posted on 03/19/2011 10:33:17 AM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: bigbob
With activist judges on every bench in the land, the rule of law no longer has any meaning. It has come to the point where we may have to adopt President Andrew Jackson's view of judicial injunctions as expressed in his response to the 1832 SCOTUS case of Worcester v. Georgia. Said Jackson: "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
8 posted on 03/19/2011 10:39:29 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: cdcdawg

To be fair, Tim Cullen was out of the Senate for some time and only recently decided to run for office again. Risser, however, was standing on the corner of Main and Bedford and they built the Capitol building around him.


9 posted on 03/19/2011 10:40:38 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: PowderMonkey

The problem in WI is that Madison is located in the most liberal county (Dane) in America. Apparently, one must use the Dane County courts first, which leads to bogus decisions like the one from Sumi yesterday.

The last thing that scummy Jim Doyle did to Wisconsin right before he left office, was to get a bunch of older liberal judges to retire early so he could appoint a bunch of liberal cronies to their positions. The thought being that they would run in April of 2011 with (inc) after their names. Voters have the chance to sweep these ghouls out of office on April 5.

On an important related note: Wisconsin voters must go to the polls on April 5 and make sure that David Prosser gets re-elected to the WI Supreme Court to retain the 4-3 conservative balance. The unions are targeting him for defeat so that they can undo everything that Scott Walker and the Republicans pass in the way of legislation. Democrat judges have no conscience, as we have seen with the Sumi decision.


10 posted on 03/19/2011 10:46:43 AM PDT by chickadee
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A good point about the Supreme Court - Prosser’s re-election will really be about the first litmus test of true WI public sentiment, won’t it? (As opposed to moonbats-on-Capitol-Square sentiment)


11 posted on 03/19/2011 11:10:28 AM PDT by bigbob
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Yes, bigbob, you are right on that. Make sure you tell all your friends and relatives (of right mind) to get out and vote for Prosser.

Join the “buy-cotts” if you can. The union thugs need to know we are pushing back.


12 posted on 03/19/2011 11:12:30 AM PDT by chickadee
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If the best WI can do is 140,000 against 5,000,000 they had better rethink the math. (they are teachers after all)


13 posted on 03/19/2011 11:14:25 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: bigbob

It was in special session. That was the point.


14 posted on 03/19/2011 11:19:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bigbob

Oooops...


15 posted on 03/19/2011 11:24:03 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: chickadee

Will do - I know several who are buying all their gas at Quik Trip from now on. and telling them why.

And for the record, Fred Risser (FLEE-Madistan) is 83 years old, and has held the same seat in the WI State Senate since 1962. Plus, he was in the State Assembly for 5 years before that.

He’s been a democrat state politician since the year “Perry Mason” debuted on TV and Sputnik was launched.


16 posted on 03/19/2011 11:34:03 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: chickadee

They tried hard to stack the judicial primary and, in an election that usually flies under the radar, Prosser won a place with every other candidate being a prog.

I’d say our ground game was great, then. Hope it continues now that the progs have their drawers in a knot.


17 posted on 03/19/2011 11:35:33 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: bigbob

Drudge Freep!


18 posted on 03/19/2011 12:02:41 PM PDT by defal33 (Christmas in not ment to be Politically Correct)
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