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Endgame for Japanese Reactors (Will have to use Russian solution)
me | 3/17/2011 | milwguy

Posted on 03/17/2011 10:39:24 AM PDT by milwguy

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To: Freddd

When a relative newbie is pushing the same agenda of fear-mongering as the MSM, expect to get questioned roughly.


61 posted on 03/17/2011 12:20:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Freddd
You haven't told me what you believe yet.

I tried to put some perspective to historical events that people already know the results.

I think some people are afraid from lack of knowledge and that can be fixed, right here on Free Republic.

I think those that give false information or questionable information should be challenged to support it. I've made mistakes and had correction made as well.

62 posted on 03/17/2011 12:26:36 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

Nobody has asked me what I believe...but they sure are quick to ridicule, call names, threaten...


63 posted on 03/17/2011 12:27:56 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: FreedomPoster

Relative newbie? Oh, I must not be a freeper as long as you, eh?

fearmongering, to you is me posting info I have found or repeated...

Not very tolerant of other’s posts are you?


64 posted on 03/17/2011 12:29:36 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: milwguy
Near building 3 reactor reading has been as high as 8912 microsieverts per hour

Let us put that in perspective. At that level, if you stayed there for an hour, you would receive the equivalent dosage of an upper GI tract X-ray or a CT Colonography.

8,912 microsieverts/hr = 8.9 millisieverts/hr

Radiation Exposure in X-ray and CT Examination
http://www.radiologyinfo.org/en/safety/index.cfm?pg=sfty_xray

You don't want to get Medical X-ray's all day long, but being exposed to few isn't causing long term damage. It is why they are rotating workers in and out. And the values have since lowered.

65 posted on 03/17/2011 12:32:57 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: milwguy

You probably want to quote that one, then, if your point is that the level is dangerous to human health. The other one is pretty tame in comparison, and personally I could have no problem walking past or through that environment, or even performing tasks in it (the lower levey you quoted before)

Do you know, is that high level sustained, or did it peak at that level, and for how long?

Those are important questions to ask when you are trying to determine risk when dealing with radiation.


66 posted on 03/17/2011 12:33:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: Freddd
Nobody has asked me what I believe...

I thought that was how you and I started this last round.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2690331/posts?page=38#38

67 posted on 03/17/2011 12:35:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

You asked?


68 posted on 03/17/2011 12:37:42 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: Freddd

First words, post #38,

“I ask this in all seriousness. Do you actually believe...”


69 posted on 03/17/2011 12:39:57 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Palmetto Patriot

The "scream" face looks like an upside-down GE Mark I BWR reactor primary containment structure.

70 posted on 03/17/2011 12:40:31 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Freddd
I don't mean to hound you. I was trying to understand.

I'll drop it or take the conversation to private messages if you prefer.

71 posted on 03/17/2011 12:41:25 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Freddd

I’m not very tolerant of the spread of known idiocy and/or fear mongering.

Why do you ask?


72 posted on 03/17/2011 12:43:12 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: milwguy

According to the latest reports, the fire trucks were successful, and the temperature was lowered in the #3 spent fuel ponds, although the radiation level at that reactor was unchanged, I believe at 3.7 milliseverts/hour.

At that level, a worker could spend up to 69 hours there, and then would not be allowed any more exposure for a year. But that is the “safety factor” value; you could spend 278 hours at 3.7 millisevierts/hour before you would likely show signs of radiation sickness.


73 posted on 03/17/2011 12:43:49 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FreedomPoster

So stop doing it then.


74 posted on 03/17/2011 12:44:56 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Reactor #3 had readings of over 8900 millisieverts an hour earlier today. I am not sure where you are getting your info. The fire trucks, according to the info I saw on Japanese Tv were not successful, and spent less than 30 minutes spraying water at the reactor. They had to withdraw due to high radiation levels and the water did not get into the building


75 posted on 03/17/2011 12:48:39 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: Freddd

There isn’t an inherent relative worth in two people’s beliefs when dealing with physics or mathematics.

One person can believe that high taxes are bad and another may believe that high taxes are ruinous, and there may be a case made by each person that can be evaluated.

But when someone says that 292 microsieverts/hour is an indication that an environment is too hot to work in and is further evidence that a situation is out of control, where someone else says it is not indicative of those things at all and has a large body of research and derived information to back it up, then it it is not a situation of people agreeing to disagree.

Facts are facts, and as thackney pointed out, we all get them wrong occasionally. Pointing out errors that distort a situation does not make someone a shill for the nuclear industry, an ostrich, a troll, a visitor from DU or an “Obamaite”.


76 posted on 03/17/2011 12:49:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: thackney

weird how you cut the rest of that sentence off...because you did not ask me what I thought...you asked me did I seriously think —and then you put the words there...not me.

That is not asking what one thinks....I never said I thought those things, you made an accusation, asking me If I seriously believed it....

Your accusations are yours.


77 posted on 03/17/2011 12:52:38 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: rlmorel

who is ‘someone’ who said 292 ?


78 posted on 03/17/2011 12:53:53 PM PDT by Freddd
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To: rlmorel

agreed.....A lot of conflicting infomation has come out about the radiation levels. I try to quote what I hear at this link because it is from Japan and the TEPCO guys are often shown speaking to the press.

http://globaltravelerinternational.blogspot.com/2011/03/nhk-tokyo-japan-live-tv.html


79 posted on 03/17/2011 12:53:58 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: thackney

You clearly do mean to hound me.

and I see no reason whatsoever this need be done ‘in private’ unless you want insults not published that would have to be removed...


80 posted on 03/17/2011 12:55:15 PM PDT by Freddd
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