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Endgame for Japanese Reactors (Will have to use Russian solution)
me | 3/17/2011 | milwguy

Posted on 03/17/2011 10:39:24 AM PDT by milwguy

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To: FrogMom
As I remember the graphite and associated fuel in Chernobyl #4 burned for 2 weeks or more. It was at least an order of magnitude greater than this disaster.

It would be scary getting those instructions, especially having kids.

121 posted on 03/17/2011 5:06:31 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: Justa

I thought you would be interested in this. No doubt there have been conflicting reports.

Why Fukushima Daiichi won’t be another Chernobyl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2690461/posts

In one case the Japanese authorities initially said that one of the spent fuel ponds was itself on fire, but this was later retracted and it remains unclear what actually happened. In another case, the fire has been attributed to diesel engines pumping water into the reactors. All of the fires seem to have been outside the pressure vessels that contain the core of radioactive fuel rods.


122 posted on 03/17/2011 5:16:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: thackney

It was scary. It was never suggested that we evacuate, just don’t let the kids outside to play, they were to keep off the grass at all times.

It stayed that way for a couple of weeks and then rained for 3 days. A couple of days later we were told they could go out to play, but still shouldn’t buy German milk.

The interesting thing is that they never said why. To me it was obvious, they had either measured/observed or expected fallout from Russia. Fallout falls on grass, cows eat grass, cows give slightly radioactive milk. “American” milk sold there came largely from Israel, IIRC.

Interesting times.


123 posted on 03/17/2011 5:17:47 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: thackney

Thank you for the information. I think any fires at #4 can only be attributed to the storage pools. There is no electricity, no operable generators on site, no battery power, personnel or other conceivable sources of fuel and ignition other than the fuel rods which are known to catch fire if exposed and in close proximity to each other -as would likely occur during an earthquake and nearby explosions.

I don’t think the Japanese authorities have been accurately reporting the full extent of the radioactive leakage. They are benefitting enormously from winds blowing to the east. The fact they keep providing front gate radiation readings which is a few hundred meters upwind of the reactors vice taking readings downwind over the ocean is revealing.

When the wind shifts back to the west this weekend they won’t be able to obscure the leakage at that point. Around that time the US west coast monitors should begin picking up readings from the initial days which have made it across the Pacific in greatly diminished concentrations. So we’ll see I guess.

I’m pro-nuke under the condition that spent fuel and highly radioactive, long half-life waste is buried underground such as Yucca Flats. Unfortunately the greens and NIMBYs have confounded storage and long term disposal which likely contributed in many ways to the extent of this spill.


124 posted on 03/17/2011 5:51:44 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa
I am not convinced there are no conceivable source for a fire after the hydrogen explosion and the resulting damage. But exposed fuel rods are certainly a strong candidate.

I wish we reprocessed fuel like Japan, France and Russia. It would greatly reduce the amount of spent material needed for disposal.

125 posted on 03/17/2011 5:55:40 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer (biblein90days.org))
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To: meyer
The "scream" face looks like an upside-down GE Mark I BWR reactor primary containment structure.

I just now read your post. That is laugh out loud hysterical!

126 posted on 03/17/2011 6:29:58 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: milwguy
SRS concrete pump heading to Japan nuclear site

Bump to you!!!!

127 posted on 03/31/2011 5:06:47 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Funny how these things work. The media is so lazy these days it is really shameful.


128 posted on 03/31/2011 6:23:46 PM PDT by milwguy
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