Posted on 03/17/2011 9:27:34 AM PDT by kingattax
The Donald is saying the things that need to be said! He is doing a service to the nation! If he can turn Birthers into a study that needs to be made—I’m for him. He isn’t Ross Perot (even though Perot had some good ideas) and I think he should serve in Government in some way? Sec. of Treasury? Vice President? Special Jobs Czar? Don’t let your dislike of his hairstyle get in the way of the good he can do. I would like to see him as Palin’s VP.
A guy with nothing to hide doesn’t post a fake certificate, and then refuse to post a real one. Why would anyone in politics want to hide the proof of their birthplace? Because the truth would hurt them.
Obama is a fraud.
At this point the media is killing their own credibility. Right after Abercrombie had his statements to the Star Advertiser interviewer and to Mike Evans - after making this great big deal in the NYT and LA Times about how he was going to find the BC and shoot down the “birthers” dead - the media immediately started going after “birthers” as being crazy.
Abercrombie’s statements probably did more to convince skeptics than all of the writing I’ve ever done, and just when people who had thought “birthers” were nuts realized that there’s really something going on, they saw the media try to sweep even Abercrombie’s admission under the rug in order to call people with questions (Abercrombie himself, apparently!) crazy.
I suspect that Obama may have issued another ultimatum to the media, only this time saying they HAD to call “birthers” crazy or else he’d annihilate them through the FCC rather than saying they couldn’t say anything about eligibility. If so, it just shows that Obama has no clue about normal, sane people. When the whole world sees Abercrombie drop his drawers and crap in public, and then the very next week the media calls crazy anybody who noticed that fact.... all it does is shoot the media in the foot. A media without credibility is worthless - like salt that has lost its saltiness, as my Lord might say.
If Obama really wants to waste the media’s credibility by making them spew crap on this issue, all I can do is laugh at his stupidity. He’s gonna need the media if he wants to get elected, but by that time rolls around people like Anderson Cooper, David Gregory, and Bill O’Reilly will already be the laughingstock of the world, at this rate.
If someone with Barack Obama's credentials and official paperwork (or lack thereof) came to Donald Trump for a job, Trump probably wouldn't be able to hire him.
THAT is what I find so bizarre about this Obama character.
Beck has been told his family could be dead if he treats the issue fairly.
Doug Hagmann has documented that. All the on-air media people were told that. Soros’ goons threatened them all. Hagmann’s got a signed statement by one of the on-air personalities, the handwritten notes of a secretary who was at the meeting where the threats were relayed to the on-air personalities, and corroborating schedules and eyewitness interviews. They were threatened sometime in October of 2008 (I believe right around the same time that Judge Surick was faxed “his” decision in the Berg v Obama case) and again at least once after the election as well.
Beck is a good actor. He’s a guy whose family has a gun against their head and the guy holding the gun is telling Beck, “Make fun of this. Now.”
What’s he supposed to do? It doesn’t make me happy - any more than it makes me happy when the reporter who interviewed me absorbed what I was saying and the documentation I have for it but couldn’t print any of that in her article. When the mob runs the country, people do what it takes to stay alive.
That’s the level we’re at right now. The lawlessness and intimidation tactics that were visible in Wisconsin are the tip of the iceberg.
I’ve heard Obama called:
The Manchurian President
The witness protection program President
The black-box President
And
The man with no past
For all we know, Obama could be a robot that Soros built in his basement. Nothing is known about him except what Ayres wrote in those two Obama storybooks. Obama is a ghost.
The media keeps harping on the birth certificate to distract from the larger issue.
The man has no verifiable past at all down to the smallest detail. No friends. No family. No neighbors. No classmates. No doctors. No records. No nothing.
He is invisible.
NAAAAA, I think most of these people will not stick their necks out of their hidey holes, when the axes are swinging. On the BC issue, they are simply afraid of being called crazy. In Becks case, he is used to being called crazy, but One must concentrate on One thing, or risk losing it all. It is difficult to do all of the research that GB and his staff have done on Obama and his puppetmasters, then turn around and research Obama. I believe GB KNOWS as do I, that 0 is not in control, he is but a figurehead, like Acchk ma dinna jad.
We have a most plausible explanation of this whole Birth Certificate conumdrum, courtesy of Lawyer Hemenway, in Hollister v Soetoro.
Hemenway believes there is a Birth Certificate. However, since it would have had to have been amended upon adoption of little Barack by Lolo Soetoro, the POTUS' BC identifies him as Barry Soetoro. The original would then have been sealed. This is a normal process. Bill Blythe became Bill Clinton. Leslie King became Gerald Ford.
Unlike these two former Presidents, apparently, our presumptive POTUS decided to re-assume the name "Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (or II)," but without taking the necessary legal steps. This fraudulent use of the name is, IMHO, what led to his "resignation" from the Bar of the State of Illinois. He wisely "resigned," before a hearing on the results of the Bar inquiry, which would have lead to disbarrment.
He flat-out lied to the Bar on his Bar Application when the denied ever using another name. He also neglected to mention that he had used drugs, or had outstanding traffic tickets.
If Hemenway is correct, Governor Abercrombie is not flat-out lieing, when he says "No Obama BC." That's because the POTUS' BC as amended may well say "Soetoro." "There is no wonder then," opines Hemenway, "that the man wants that BC suppressed." \\\\
BTW, Butter, it is incomprehensible ... inconceivable ... to me that no, NO, NOT ONE (1) reporter has looked into the odd fact that both Michelle and the presumptor-POTUS have both HAD TO accept resignation from the Bar of the State of Illinois under rather murky circumstances. All the information is (or was) available on line from the website of the Illinois Bar. (The actual records are sealed when a disciplined attorney resigns rather than face the unspecified music.) Very odd, indeed.
You’re right about everything you say about Barry.
As far as Trump goes, I don’t trust him. He could just as easily veer left as any other direction. I don’t think he has any principles other than “me, me, me”.
I hope he ends up taking Barry down on the identity-theft issue, though.
I don’t believe that is what happened, unless the HDOH has been lying all along even worse than we know. The HDOH has Obama’s name as Barack Hussein Obama II in everything they’ve said. All that would have to be blatant lies. Adoption would not show as an amendment in the records because it would have resulted in a new birth certificate altogether, and it could not have been done in 2006 as the HDOH indicated.
I do believe the only way we will know what happened is by seeing the entire history of his vital records - when they originated, what amendments were made, etc. That’s because the bureaucrats have contradicted each other and the laws at every turn.
Hemenway's point is that the BC would have had to be amended upon adoption, just as it would have been for anyone else.
HDOH has been lying all along even worse than we know.
And?.....
But the HDOH revealed that it was amended in 2006. The lt governor’s office has revealed that they have no name change order for either an Obama or Soetoro/Sutoro. The HDOH has said there was no court order to unseal an original birth certificate so if they have any record of a Barack Hussein Obama II it can only be because there never was a Soetoro adoption recorded in Hawaii. And Abercrombie has said that if the “birther” bills pass, all he or Obama could do is to present what they have and hope that “fair-minded people” would consider it good enough. That doesn’t sound like it’s about what last name Obama is legally supposed to have, or about what daddy he has, or any other “embarrassing” thing. That sounds like it has to do with whether he can prove he was born in Hawaii, and Abercrombie is saying it’s iffy whether anybody would accept the documentation that exists. That’s what Abercrombie’s Star Advertiser interview seems to say.
If the HDOH is lying, anything could be the case. And we know they’ve lied about lots of stuff so we could come up with just about any scenario and it could possibly be the case. There’s almost nothing that we can rule out because there is almost nothing that we know.
Trying to figure out what’s real from Obama’s life is an exercise in futility because there is evidence that every official source we have is either deceiving or outright lying. They’ve said that the index data they have is Obama II, Barack Hussein, male, birth. If that’s not what they really have then anything is possible but there is no way for anybody to know what is actually true.
At this point I really don’t much care what’s going on with Obama. What I want to know is what the heck is going on with these bureaucrats and why. Obama lying about his last name doesn’t make sense out of why these bureaucrats are all lying for him, altering records, breaking laws, etc. Everybody knows Obama is a liar. That would not be shocking news and would certainly not have kept him from becoming president. Yet this one issue is the one the Soros minions threatened the media over. It very much looks like this one issue is the one the Soros minions threatened Judge Surick on (if not the other judges as well), to get him to pass off somebody else’s “decision” as if it was his own.
I guess what I’m saying is that anything I try to surmise about Obama’s actual history depends on the truthfulness and accuracy of the sources, and the official sources at this point have proven they can’t be trusted. But whatever Obama is hiding, it is something of enough significance that judges, media, government bureaucrats in all offices and levels, and law enforcement are ALL bowing to Soros’ demands on this ONE ISSUE. And Abercrombie is saying the best that Hawaii has may not be enough to convince anybody that he is Constitutionally eligible. I think we’re talking about something much more serious than Obama wanting his name to show him as “unadopted” (which is allowed in Hawaii law).
You might have it right or half right. Only problem with the Obongo long form BC is he’s had too much time to alter it or cook ne up and no state will be brave enough to demand the original physical long form BC to be forensically examined as to paper, ink etc. What they will get will be a copy of it and only if enough fuss is made
This is my guess
This has gone far beyond Obama to rattle the basic foundation of the Republic. We are left knowing that what we are being told can only be false, with no way to correct it, no accountability for those who lie to us, or worse, misdirect us, and no institution with enough integrity left to which we can take our case.
The real questions are, "How far into that "Awkward Phase" are we and are we too late to fix the system?"
Obama’s mother was a hippie. So why would she bother with an adoption on America soil? The Soetero adoption and name change was done in Indonesia only. And just as well since her marriage to Soetero did not last. And who knows if Barry was ever really adopted by his step-father in Indonesia? That place is a mess
These institutions have failed because they all have gone to the left along with the American people which was stupid enough to vote for a critter with three Muslim names. It doesn't get any stupider than that. Look how much homosexuality is accepted in the military compared to 10,20,30,40 years ago and I'm including conservatives in that
Barry's birth certificate shenanigans would never succeeded a decade or two ago
What a concise summary. It really is an insane situation. George Orwell had it pegged.
And your tagline says it all. If this is the reality that most the voters are willing to accept, this nation is sunk.
“His mouth is why I Just Might Vote for him.”
If you didn’t catch it the first time, look up his speech at CPAC - awesome. Short and to the point. He’s really disturbed about where BHO’s taken the country, and PO’d about it as well, where China and OPEC are concerned in particular. He’s extremely savvy and an alpha male who makes BHO look like the sniveling, petulant child he is. He could certainly rival (or surpass) BHO’s campaign coffers, isn’t afraid to be blunt, is pro-life and against gun control. I believe he cares about this country that’s been so good to him AND would effectively handle our enemies (with whom he’s had real world experience). He knows how to assemble winning teams (most of whom would NOT be politicians). Granted, his marital track record hasn’t been great, but when it comes to the life and death issues we’re faced with now, both real and economic, he’s a problem-solver with b***s of steel. That’s what it’s going to take to a) defeat the One and b) turn things around.
““Someone spend millions” I don’t think Obama is smart enough to be able to pull that off - someone is but not him.”
Well, of course - that’s what he has “people” for.
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