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LIVE thread & Breaking News ~ Japan
Various | 15 March 2011

Posted on 03/15/2011 8:13:35 AM PDT by SE Mom

Latest news from Japan:

From the BBC-

1456: Tepco says it may start pouring water from a helicopter over Fukushima Daiichi's reactor four in the next few days, to cool the spent-fuel pool.

1439: A 30km (18 mile) no-fly zone is in place around Fukushima, says the IAEA.

1436: The IAEA says Monday's blast at Fukushima may have affected the integrity of the containment vessel - there are fears of more serious radioactive leaks if happen.

1435: Following earlier reports, it appears there has been more than one strong aftershock in Japan - AP reports two tremors measuring over 6.0 within three minutes of each other.

Twitter-

-US Geological Survey counts 451 aftershocks since the initial earthquake struck Japan Friday. 238 of them registered magnitude 5.0 or more.

-Despite situations in Japan & Libya, spksmn Jay Carney says Pres Obama's 5-day trip to Brazil, Chile & El Salvador starting Fri night is on.

-FLASH: More U.S. military personnel in Japan testing positive for low-levels of radiation, relief missions to continue - Navy 18 minutes ago via web


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bwr; earthquake; fukushima; genpatsushinsai; iaea; japan; japanearthquake; japaneathquake; japannuclearplants; ki; nuclear; radiation; tsunami
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To: WestCoastGal

Dumb question here, but why do they wear face masks? They’ve worn them long before the quake so why? I remember seeing them during the SARs scare but isn’t that long past?


1,421 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:07 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Errant

Thanks.


1,422 posted on 03/17/2011 9:07:18 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: SteveH
The GE whistleblower

GE worker Kei Sugaoka climbs out of a reactor at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in 1977...


1,423 posted on 03/17/2011 9:07:58 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
Access control room that leads into Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, pictured in 1977...

By Courtesy photo


1,424 posted on 03/17/2011 9:10:25 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
GE worker Kei Sugaoka climbs out of a reactor at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in 1977...

By Courtesy photo


1,425 posted on 03/17/2011 9:11:51 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: RummyChick
Japan would be better off if we went without politicians for 10 years.”

Hon, we all would be better off without politicians, period.

1,426 posted on 03/17/2011 9:12:42 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: WestCoastGal
Has anyone wondered where the HOLLYWOOD LIBS are in this disaster. They were all over the internet and TV about Haiti?

The camera magnifies the slightest imperfection. They can't afford a radiation sunburn on their new face lifts or loss of their pampered hair.

1,427 posted on 03/17/2011 9:16:53 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: SteveH

http://www.baycitizen.org/disasters/story/inside-japans-failing-nuclear-reactors/

Inside Japan’s Failing Nuclear Reactors
Martinez man once repaired the mighty Fukushima power station; now he is observing its destruction

By John Upton on March 16, 2011 - 5:47 p.m. PDT

MARTINEZ — For five days, the world has watched as engineers struggle to contain a catastrophe building inside four Japanese nuclear reactors.

Martinez resident Kei Sugaoka knows those reactors well.

Sugaoka was a senior field engineer for General Electric Co., which designed and helped maintain the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in northeastern Japan. Over a 21-year period, he descended “countless” times into the plant’s now-failing reactors, giving him a unique perspective on the unfolding drama.

After he was laid off from GE in 1998, Sugaoka gained notoriety as a whistleblower who reported significant safety violations at Fukushima, leading to sweeping reforms in Japan’s nuclear industry in the early 2000s.

However, as he watches the disaster from his two-story home in suburban Martinez, Sugaoka said he is stunned that a facility he regarded as safe and impregnable appears to be melting down.

“Never in my mind did I expect to see this,” he said in an interview. “This is unbelievable.”

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1,428 posted on 03/17/2011 9:16:53 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

If you are trying to ship something (as in emergency supplies overnight delivery type of thing) to Japan UPS is not taking rush packages. Not sure if that is only parts of Japan or what.


1,429 posted on 03/17/2011 9:17:13 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bgill

Locals say they suffer from hay fever - thus the masks,


1,430 posted on 03/17/2011 9:18:09 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: SteveH
Kei Sugaoka


1,431 posted on 03/17/2011 9:23:23 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: luckystarmom; Errant
One thing that time does buy is is reduced heat load because of the radioactive decay of the heat-generating fission products in the fuel. The equations which describe this decay process are complex and have a fancy name, the Way-Wigner formula for fission product decay, named after those who developed the theory, Katharine (Kay) Way and Eugene Wigner.

One approximation for the solution to the Way-Wigner formula says that the radioactivity of a group of fission products will drop by a factor of two (half-life) at a rate about equal to their "age", the "age" being how long they have been decaying since they were last involved in a fission process in a reactor core. So, one day after the fission stops, the half-life is about a day. After a week, the half-life is about one week, etc. So as time passes, decay continues to occur, but the overall rate slows down, because you've decayed out the shorter-lived forms, leaving only longer half-lives as time passes. But, still, you do get reduced heat load as time passes. So every day we avoid any major problems is another day of reduction in fission product heat.

Probably small comfort at this point, but something.

1,432 posted on 03/17/2011 9:24:54 AM PDT by chimera
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To: WestCoastGal
High radiation levels detected 18.6 miles from stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, outside 12.4-mile evacuation zone

That 12 mile thing has bugged me the last few days. Apparently, the talking heads can't do simple math and they can't be bothered to verify statements flung out by their competition.

Japan said days ago that the evacuation zone was 30 kilometers. That's 18.6 miles.

1,433 posted on 03/17/2011 9:26:55 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: WestCoastGal

Masks seem a bit extreme for hay fever imo and I am allergic and sneeze at everything.


1,434 posted on 03/17/2011 9:34:14 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: SteveH
Fukushima inside before blast


1,435 posted on 03/17/2011 9:36:35 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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Best show of before/after tsunami damage IMO.

http://r3load.net/befaftjapquake.html


1,436 posted on 03/17/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: bgill

Actually- I believe it was evacuate within 12 miles and stay inside and use no a/c or open windows from 12 miles to 18.


1,437 posted on 03/17/2011 9:54:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bgill

Yes it does, but locals who have been questioned about it say hay fever, so I don’t know.

Maybe it’s another Japanese thing about not wanting to admit the obvious which seems to be a noticeable problem since this catastrophe began.


1,438 posted on 03/17/2011 9:55:43 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: SteveH

Plutonium, fuel rod reactions stoke nuclear tensions (Reactor #3 and why it is critical)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2690298/posts


1,439 posted on 03/17/2011 9:57:58 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Item on Drudge, no link yet:

REPORT: Radiation Found At O’Hare Airport... Developing...


1,440 posted on 03/17/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by Raebie
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