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Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe Escalates in Japan – ‘Worse than Chernobyl’
Forbes ^ | 3/11/2011 | Willian Pentland

Posted on 03/12/2011 8:16:13 AM PST by Chunga85

The Institute for Public Accuracy issued the following statement by nuclear expert, Kevin Kamp, about the risk of nuclear disaster in post-Earthquake Japan: “The electrical grid is down. The emergency diesel generators have been damaged. The multi-reactor Fukushima atomic power plant is now relying on battery power, which will only last around eight hours. The danger is, the very thermally hot reactor cores at the plant must be continuously cooled for 24 to 48 hours. Without any electricity, the pumps won’t be able to pump water through the hot reactor cores to cool them. Once electricity is lost, the irradiated nuclear fuel could begin to melt down. If the containment systems fail, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur.”

“In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: japan; japanearthquake; tsunami
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To: JSteff
The bottom of the containment vessel did melt and penetrate the bed rock beneath the vessel.

I suspect you're thinking of the movie "The China Syndrome," not anything having to do with actual physics or reality. Adequate cooling was restored to the TMI core by the evening of the same day of the accident.

Here's the extent of the core melting and damage as estimated by INL scientists following video inspection:

No breach of the containment vessel. None. Let alone the "bedrock below."

101 posted on 03/12/2011 6:56:01 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Melas
Didn’t live up to the billing? Is the city of Prypiat habitable? No, I didn’t think so. Japan being geographically tiny, simply can’t afford an alienation zone of that size.

People still live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and those suffered the completely uncontained release of the entire core inventory of a supercritical nuclear reaction, not just some moderately contaminated radioactive steam drifting downwind.

Wildlife is thriving in the Chernobyl exclusion zone - many call it a "paradox," but it's not a paradox if your premise is false.

102 posted on 03/12/2011 7:05:16 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Melas

The blogger indicates that the level at this location, at the time the photo was taken last June, was 2 millirems per hour, about half what astronauts living on the space station are exposed to.

103 posted on 03/12/2011 7:14:19 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Chunga85

Time will tell.

The next 24 hours are crucial.


104 posted on 03/12/2011 7:43:16 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Trumka: birds of a feather.)
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To: Chunga85
The Institute for Public Accuracy, this idiot's front group, describes themselves as Progressive. Wikipedia categorizes them as liberal.

Their opinions and conjectures can be safely discarded.

105 posted on 03/12/2011 8:00:22 PM PST by Lazamataz (NPR is the ACORN of the media world.)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz...Caw here....is it right then that the fear is if there is a meltdown the containment steel area may or may not contain it...is that right?


106 posted on 03/12/2011 8:02:26 PM PST by caww
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To: Palladin
The next 24 hours are crucial.

Agree, and another 72 hours after that, too.
Bottom line is monitoring the situation, constantly.

107 posted on 03/12/2011 8:02:58 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: pnh102
For the fourth (or is it fifth?) thread on this topic, let me introduce:

Chicken Little Elmo

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108 posted on 03/12/2011 8:08:15 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: caww
I have no information on the physics or engineering of the plant. I merely point out that the source (and the founder of the group, Norm Solomon) have a long history of liberal, progressive, anti-nuclear agenda to explain before we listen to a word they have to say:

Norm Solomon came under FBI scrutiny after he picketed for the desegregation of a Maryland apartment complex at age 14. As a high school senior, he drew further FBI surveillance for his efforts on behalf of the Montgomery County Student Alliance activist group. He became aware of their surveillance later, through a Freedom of Information request. He then attended Reed College but left before graduating. In Portland, Oregon, he was an activist against nuclear power and nuclear weapons and was a researcher for the Committee for U.S. Veterans of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He won the third prize for best news reporting, from Maryland-Delaware Press Association during his days there in 1970.

So, a long-term anti-nuclear activist creates a liberal activism group. Some clown described as a 'nuclear expert' spouts some crap about how this will be the end of the Universe.

And we're supposed to just swallow it?

Naw tanks.

109 posted on 03/12/2011 8:09:11 PM PST by Lazamataz (NPR is the ACORN of the media world.)
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To: redgolum

just dont use leadsinkers or shot...dont want to contaminate the wildlife or environment...


110 posted on 03/12/2011 9:53:43 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Chunga85

When flaming chunks of radioactive fuel get violently exploded out of the core I’ll say it’s worse than Chernobyl.

Until then this is another TMI.


111 posted on 03/12/2011 9:58:55 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
I hope this does not put a dent in the Obama’s lavish lifestyle. I know how much they love that Kobe Beef.

Let them eat lobster! (/s)

112 posted on 03/12/2011 11:10:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Chunga85

My church has “Healthy Summer Vacation” every year for children from the Chernobyl area to visit Berlin, even after all these years.

My wife and I discussed it and will be more involved with that when our daughter gets older, she is just 18 months today!

(I need to get back now to our little party.)


113 posted on 03/12/2011 11:39:56 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Lazamataz
The Institute for Public Accuracy, this idiot's front group, describes themselves as Progressive. Wikipedia categorizes them as liberal.

Their opinions and conjectures can be safely discarded.

In most cases, any entity or outfit with the term "Public" in the name is prima facie suspect and, more often than not, liberal in orientation:

There may be a few examples to the contrary, but when I see an organization offering information to the "Public", I tend to discount its veracity.
114 posted on 03/13/2011 12:14:09 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex; All
..when I see an organization offering information to the "Public", I tend to discount its veracity.

I see. Let's wait until Rush Limbaugh weighs in on this. This will ensure everything being reported is accurate, more importantly, fits properly into the right political mold.

115 posted on 03/13/2011 7:09:32 AM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Errant
Actually sand, lead, steel are much better materials for stopping a chain reaction. Water, once melting of the fuel rods has occurred, simply turns to steam and contributes to the spread of the contamination. Sand, lead on the other hand mix with the molten fuel and help to bring things back below critical mass necessary for a chain reaction to continue.

Someone else may have already responded to your comment. However, just in case they did not:

Sand cannot be circulated by installed systems.

116 posted on 03/13/2011 10:12:53 AM PDT by txnuke (Obama votes "PRES__ENT" because he has no ID.)
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To: txnuke
Sand cannot be circulated by installed systems.

You're right of course. I was referring to a case of total meltdown, roof blown off, open containment event such as happened at Chernobyl. In this case, that kind of access might not occur even if there is a complete meltdown.

117 posted on 03/13/2011 10:25:26 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

That map is total bullsh*t. 100 megaton nukes dont release that much radiation.


118 posted on 03/13/2011 11:02:13 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Any economy based on Keynesian principles and practices are always ponzi/pyramid schemes.)
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To: Errant
From the Australian Radiation Service: DISCLAIMER: Australian Radiation Services is aware of information about radioactive contamination being spread from the Japanese nuclear reactor incident released under the ARS logo and name. We wish to be clear that this information has not originated from ARS and as such distance ourselves from any such misinformation.
119 posted on 03/14/2011 2:15:45 AM PDT by UncleHambone ("Laughter is America's most important export." - Walt Disney)
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To: UncleHambone
Thanks! As I suspected. I found a copy of "the file" on a "site" in Japan along with various "other" files. The creation date was before the tsunami date.

The folks at Australian Radiation Service look legit.

120 posted on 03/14/2011 6:17:22 AM PDT by Errant
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