Posted on 03/09/2011 11:49:39 PM PST by Red Steel
Backers want to turn state into place where officials can ignore U.S. laws
HELENA, Mont. — With each new bill, newly elected lawmakers from the loose-knit, largely conservative anti-tax tea party coalition are offering Montanans a vision of the future.
Their state would be a place where officials can ignore U.S. laws, force FBI agents to get a sheriff's OK before arresting anyone, ban abortions, limit sex education in schools and create armed citizen militias.
It's the tea party world. But not everyone is buying their vision.
Some residents, Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer and even some Republican lawmakers say the bills are making Montana into a laughingstock. And, they say, the push to nullify federal laws could be dangerous.
"We are the United States of America," said Schweitzer. "This talk of nullifying is pretty toxic talk. That led to the Civil War."
A tea party lawmaker said raising the specter of a civil war is plain old malarkey.
"Nullification is not about splitting this union apart," freshman Rep. Derek Skees said. "Nullification is just one more way for us to tell the federal government: 'That is not right."
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The Congress shall have Power ... To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever ... over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings ...
Summer of ‘71. Drove across almost the entire state lengthwise in a little under 7 hours in my Dodge Challenger. I thought “reasonable and prudent” was an average 90+ mph. Buried the needle a few times in some of the flat areas. Ah, the good old days before the socialists took over.
ALL fed land, except for military bases, should be turned over to the states. There is no need for ANY of these “land management” agencies. Just think of the $$$ to be saved if we disbanded the BLM, NPS, FWS, Forest Service and any other land grabbing agency. Most of these areas could be turned over to For Profit private business which would give more revenue to the states and local governments where it belongs.
That is kind of the point. With a central Federal Govt. so abusive of its "limited" powers, it may be time to have the conversation again.
Freedom from an oppressive centralized government is a timeless concept and can never be settled. Not even by a bunch of torch wielding federales.
No, it wasn’t.
I got a $40 ticket on the “Montanabahn” this summer.
“Backers want to turn state into place where officials can ignore U.S. laws “
So what? Those laws are unconstitutional.
limit sex education in schools
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Oh! The horror!.../s
“I really don’t see the nullification theory going anywhere...the supremacy of federal law was pretty much settled in 1865.”
I think that’s called the “right by might” theory.
That’s EXACTLY the year (1970) and color of my Challenger, only I put red and blue racing stripes on it. Didn’t have the big engine though, only a 318 with an automatic. Wish I still had it obviously. Traded it in on a GREMLIN after I had problems with burnt/sticking valves. (The Gremlin got over 200K miles on it before I got rid of it though - a LOT of miles in those days).
“...the supremacy of federal law was pretty much settled in 1865.”
Tell that to King obuma and his fascist czars. I don’t see anyone forcing obuma to obey federal law or federal court decisions.
There is no supremacy of federal law. We are now living under the rule of men. If a state is telling obuma to stuff it, it’s a natural reaction to the illegal rule of obuma.
Montana isn’t as conservative as you might think. There’s a letter to the editor in today’s newspaper advocating socialism. The legislature can pass anything, but it will immediately be challenged in the state supreme court where all seven liberal supreme court justices will strike it down. The MT Democrat mantra - “Run as a conservative...vote as a liberal...and let the press cover for you.”
A testament to the mighty Gremlin. Sad to hear about the Challenger and the problems it had. That model year is a big favorite of mine.
I agree, but the method of ‘nullifying’ an unconstitutional act is to either have it declared such by the Supreme Court or fire Congress and the president and change the law. If the problem lies in the interpretation by the Court, then remedy exists in the form of a constitutional convention.
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