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The M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle
American Rifleman ^ | 2/24/11 | Maj. John Plaster, U.S. Army (Ret.)

Posted on 03/08/2011 11:47:32 AM PST by King_Corey

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To: humblegunner

Humping a 14 pound rifle up a mountain ain’t a picnic. I guess when you need something and have to go to 40 year old stuff in a warehouse somebody isn’t funding the right things. But hey, training for the demise of DADT is well funded I be. What a way to run a war.


21 posted on 03/08/2011 12:00:51 PM PST by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: King_Corey

Standard military thinking, pick weapon because it is more effective at x range, and then the shorten the damn barrel to decrease the range.


22 posted on 03/08/2011 12:00:57 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Frantzie

Our guys used to take the M1 carbine when we flew. First thing a newbie did was grab one from one of the White Mice running around. Never jammed, always worked. Not like the Matte Matel specials they issued.


23 posted on 03/08/2011 12:01:08 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: skeeter
Why was it necessary to ship the troops 50 year old weapons?

Because they still work.

Do you know what year the B-52 Bomber entered service?

24 posted on 03/08/2011 12:03:07 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: humblegunner

WOW! That don’t look like MY M-14 I humped around with!...............


25 posted on 03/08/2011 12:03:45 PM PST by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: ZULU

I was just thinking that if they really are having fights over 500 yds, maybe the old 1903 Springfield in 30-06 might just be a good rifle for maybe half the troops with the rest using something in .308.

Of course a scoped modern bolt action hunting rifle also would seem to make sense for limited use.


26 posted on 03/08/2011 12:04:01 PM PST by yarddog
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To: skeeter
Why was it necessary to ship the troops 50 year old weapons?

Because "New and Improved" isn't necessarily.

27 posted on 03/08/2011 12:04:38 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: wastedyears
Eddie Approves.

How he gets those magazines inserted halfway down the barrel I'll never know.

28 posted on 03/08/2011 12:05:24 PM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: King_Corey

When Col Jeff Cooper was shown a $3,000 gold plated presentation wall hanging version of the M-16 he replied;

“Why would we want a commemorative version of a rifle we never wanted in the first place?”


29 posted on 03/08/2011 12:06:03 PM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: headstamp 2

It is the same cartridge, you can run a 30/06 in a 308 die and make a 308 after you trim the neck. Same for 270, 243, 25/06, all based on 30/06 brass. Some other wildcats as well.


30 posted on 03/08/2011 12:06:03 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: King_Corey

That M14 looks nothing like the M14 that I first had when I was in Vietnam (thet is, before they took it away from me and gave me that POS M16).


31 posted on 03/08/2011 12:06:30 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: WayneS

Essentially yes. The M1-A (semi-auto only)is the civilian version of the M-14 and will chamber and digest either ammo marked as 7.65 X 51 or .308 although I am told that the commercial .308 ammo (Win, Rem, Federal, etc. is loaded to higher chamber pressures. I’ve used both kinds and never had a problem.

The M1-A is a sweetheart to shoot. It has probably the best factory trigger I’ve ever shot and the weight and gas operation make recoil very easy to deal with. The only thing I don’t like is the factory scope mount puts the scope up too high to get a good cheek weld. But the thing sure does shoot! I can consistently put rounds in a 12” circle at 400 yards off of a rest. And this is a standard model, not the match grade.


32 posted on 03/08/2011 12:06:38 PM PST by technically right
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To: org.whodat

Do realize how old the M-2 .50 cal MG design is? Still the best heavy MG in the world.


33 posted on 03/08/2011 12:07:31 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Lurker
The problem with the old weapons were their inability to mount optics. Thats an improvement I can understand.

Springfield already has a solution, there is little reason to design a completely new weapon.

34 posted on 03/08/2011 12:08:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: yarddog
They actually use the 300 Winchester mag for the reach out and touch someone, when the fifty is not available.
35 posted on 03/08/2011 12:09:19 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: SeaHawkFan

LOL, older than me.


36 posted on 03/08/2011 12:11:10 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Red Badger
Gonna say. My M14 1960s version sure didn't look like that.
37 posted on 03/08/2011 12:11:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Frantzie
I hope McNamara burns in hell for taking away the M14 from our troops during JFK-LBJ’s Vietnam War.
Sorry, but the M-14 was heavy, cumbersome, had a hell of a recoil, a limited rate of fire, and the ammo was heavy too.
The M-16 was made for places like VN ... smaller, lightweight, no recoil to speak of, and you could fire semi-auto or full "rock & roll" with the flick of a switch. Most importantly, you could get boo-koo rounds on target real quick to establish a base of fire.
That the early M-16s had some real problems doesn't mean the M-14 was better. In fact, for over 40 years now, the M-16 has essentially been the weapon of choice for the US military.
38 posted on 03/08/2011 12:14:16 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I LIKE THIS ONE!.......................


39 posted on 03/08/2011 12:16:32 PM PST by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: org.whodat

Yep. 260 Rem, 280 Rem, 7mm/08 etc.

All the same cartridge head/rim specs. 308 can go into a shorter action.


40 posted on 03/08/2011 12:19:39 PM PST by headstamp 2
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