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To: Terry Mross
Stand your ground and give your life if necessary. This is what I will do. Those who wish to confiscate my property or demand that I surrender my means of self-defense or seek to detain me for who I am or what I say will do so at the peril of their own lives.

And there are precedents other than the one you've cited. To whit:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the down-stairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of a half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur - what if it had been driven off of or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

"If .... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more-we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure!
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago Page 13, fn 5:

Do we love freedom enough? I guess that we're going to find out pretty soon now, aren't we?
19 posted on 03/03/2011 12:01:45 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

But, sadly, if you or I are put in that position and we are jailed I doubt very seriously anyone would come to our aid. I said SADLY.


20 posted on 03/03/2011 12:08:27 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Noumenon

There’s plenty who talk of resistance but there is no leaders.

A pack of dogs has a leader.

I’m an old combat vet and the thoghts that come to mind aren’t very pleasant. That being said, when do we mount up?


38 posted on 03/03/2011 1:19:03 PM PST by devistate one four ( AARP: Anti America Retired People Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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