DAVID GILBERTSON: Why are police so rude? Because they are trained to be

Daily Mail ^ | Febuary 27th, 2011 | Daved Gilbertson

[bronxville]

[...]Once upon a time the general public could confidently expect courtesy from their local constabulary...

...a new generation of chief constables and commissioners, who saw policing as a ‘business’ rather than a vocation based upon service, decided that things had to change.

The new policing, enthusiastically supported by successive Home Secretaries, was about targets, response times and ‘measurable performance’, lifted straight from the MBA syllabuses of the best universities.

Beat patrols on foot in uniform were not part of this brave new world; unless effectiveness could be measured and converted into a ‘bottom line’ cost...

Then 9/11 happened and it was decided that the police service was on the frontline in the ‘war on terror’. Almost overnight, we all changed from citizens to suspects. Terrorism legislation and spurious ‘officer safety’ policies led to the militarisation of policing and the greatest change in attitude that had taken place for a century.

Police officers, the majority quite young – the average age of an operational PC is under 24 – have been trained to believe that they are continually under physical threat and must therefore be continually on their guard. It is clear that a significant minority of officers see the public as their enemy and as a potential hazard to be dealt with aggressively.

There is no doubt that standards of behaviour and civility, across the whole of Britain, have changed for the worse over the past quarter century. Courtesy and good behaviour have been abandoned by many in our modern, ‘me’ society.

The police are products of that society; they attend the same schools, live in the same communities and have the same attitudes and prejudices as the best and the worst of us. But police officers should be held to a different standard of behaviour.[...]

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[bronxville]

- It is clear that a significant minority of officers see the public as their enemy and as a potential hazard to be dealt with aggressively

[bronxville]

- Changing times: A policeman in the 50s helps a young child post a letter

[manc]

the police back then were into community relations.
They would have cops which worked an area for years and getting to know the people there.
Now they drive around, meet up with other cops, talk, go for lunch, drive around and seem always pissed off.
License and registration.

No sir , no please just rudeness.

Many have a big attitude for some reason, why I don’t know because here they get paid damn well for doing nothing hardly.

[hosepipe]

Truth is much of society IS a threat to policemen.. and Firemen and EMT guys.. plumbers, electricians, yard maintenance guys, even Bus drivers..

Take a walk thru Detroit sometime!!..
The people in the HOOD wear (( HOODS and masks ))..
The Black culture sucks and its spreading like a disease..

If a Cop is NOT RUDE.. he hasn't been paying attention or is behind a desk..

[Buckeye McFrog]

because the “friendly, polite Bobby” routine just won’t cut it when your streets are overrun by Jihadist whackjobs

[dila813]

Well the thing that makes my local police unfriendly is the demands of their job to go out an punish the community in order to gain revenue to the city/county/state.

Law makers and City councils continue to make laws like texting while driving is illegal but using a gps isn’t. How is the cop going to determine this from 100 ft away? (Distracted driving has been illegal for years, did we need a new law?)

Then they send them out on an event to write a 1000 tickets for the new law.

People like you and I who would never see the inside of a court room are hauled into court to defend ourselves for something that we didn’t do and even in a car full of witnesses we are found guilty.

The more of these laws get passed, the more the distrust and friendly rapport with the community will be destroyed.

[scooby321]

What didn’t Obama just say leave Public Employees alone?

[762X51]

There does indeed exist an Us vs Them mentality. All “civilians” are the enemy. Granny on the way to church is viewed the same as Jerome dealing blow on the street corner. NEVER question their authority or their position as your master. In my lifetime I’ve seen the police go from Officer Friendly who visited our schools in the 1960’s to full blown authoritarian storm troopers. I’ve lived my entire life on the right side of the law, however the very few times I’ve had to interact with the police has taught me it is best to AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS! They function as the militant arm and revenue collectors of governments of all sizes. Keep quite, fly under the radar, and as I said AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS...THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!

[dila813]

Because, they perceive the problem as the opposite of what you would think.

Everyone should be public employee unions and there should be no private.......then there isn’t any disparity between groups.

[bronxville]

The article states it happened after 9-11 (he gets this from the increase in complaints). Yes, lots of new laws revved up after 9-11, everything changed, one wonders sometimes if 9-11 isn’t used as an excuse for some other agenda.

[bronxville]

Why did they change? Are they trained that way here as well as the UK? Is all of Europe trained to view the average citizen as a potential aggressor therefore their enemy?

[US Navy Vet]

“one wonders sometimes if 9-11 isn’t used as an excuse for some other agenda?” DING DING DING!!! We HAVE a WINNER!!!

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

This report is crap. I know several police officers, serving and former, as friends and have asked for directions from them many times. I have never been treated badly by any of them.

I’m sure that there have always been police officers who are power-crazed uniform fetishists though...

[Constitutions Grandchild]

I can remember my grandfather, my great uncle, my grand-father-in-law, my father-in-law were all the old-time policemen. They knew their beats and everyone who should (and shouldn't) be there. My future husband and I were placed side-by-side in the same playpen at a retired officers 3-2 tavern when I was little. I assume we hit each other over the head with our rattles and made a good bust when we played in the sandbox. We lived in the same neighborhoods (there weren't all that many to choose from at that time). We never knew each other until our teens, went away to college and came back together, BUT our grandparents, parents and uncles and aunts knew our families. We were always within a stone's throw of each other whether we were aware of it, or not.

I couldn't go anywhere in this town where someone wasn't watching or knew what I was doing. I was driving 5 mph over the speed limit on Hwy 55 one day when out of the blue I heard this booming voice say, “You're five miles over Miss Beintker. Now what would your Uncle Carl say about that.” Of course, he was in my blind spot and pulled up along side just as I was saying, “Yes, Lord, I'll slow down.” He read my lips and you can imagine the grin on his face.

All I can say is the younger officers don't have that kind of relationship with their patrols. It would be better if they did, but I don't think we're ever going to see that tight-knit relationship again. That time is in the rear view mirror.

[dznutz]

It is the leftist criminal type who hate the police. Makes me wonder just how many trolls we have here.

[dila813]

maybe, in Atlas Shrugged “everyone is a criminal”

[dsc]

The police I have interacted with here in Idaho have been acceptably courteous. It does, seem, though, that it takes three patrol cars to give someone a ticket.

On TV, now, that’s a whole different story.

What’s this crap with making people kneel and lie down in the dirt? Is that really going on, or is it just hollyweird?

[Constitutions Grandchild]

ROEs have changed. Here we are told to stay in our cars, roll the window down and keep our hands on the steering wheel unless we announce we're going to get our license or insurance papers and where we're going to get them from. Both my husband and I have made the mistake of exiting the vehicle (as we were taught in our youth) and have the papers/license in hand respectfully waiting. The first time either of us was stopped for a light that was out, or expired tags, we almost got shot. It got a little rough, but we shrugged it off. Being the children and grandchildren of cops, we tend to give them a break. If it would get too crazy, we'd call a lawyer and sit down and keep mum...D&D...Zip it...ixnay on the ordways. You get my drift?

[=8 mrrabbit 8=]

Discussed yesterday...

=8-)

[dsc]

“ROEs have changed.”

Well, maybe coming to Idaho wasn’t a complete mistake.

I was parked at an under-construction housing development in the middle of the night. A sheriff’s car pulled up behind me, and just sat there for rather a long time. At last one came up one side of my car and his partner up the other.

The one on the driver’s side asked me what I was doing there, I showed him my security guard badge, and we had a nice chat about the vandals that had been plaguing the development. Neither of them said a word about my shotgun.

That’s a good thing about Idaho. It seems that in some places libtards can call the police and shriek, “He’s got a gun” and the whole police force converges on the spot in full battle dress.

In Idaho the 911 operator is likely to say, “Okay. What’s he doing? Is he threatening anybody? Shooting anybody? No? Say, what kind of gun is it? You know, I was just looking at one of those Romanian AK-47s the other day. You seen those? They sure are cheap, but the wood isn’t very good.”