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Baby Joseph can go home to die, but without tracheotomy: family says unacceptable
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/28/11 | Patrick B. Craine

Posted on 02/28/2011 3:57:32 PM PST by wagglebee

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Even Joseph’s doctor in London has admitted that the tracheostomy could prolong his life. “A tracheotomy would likely provide for a longer period of life, however, in our view would not result in improvement of well-being and could reduce quality of life,” Dr. Douglas Fraser told the Ontario Consent and Capacity Board in January.

Yet they somehow believe that killing Baby Joseph would improve his "quality of life."

1 posted on 02/28/2011 3:57:40 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/28/2011 3:58:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/28/2011 3:59:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Wouldn’t it be nice if a pro-life doctor would just go in there and voluntarily do it for free.


4 posted on 02/28/2011 4:02:08 PM PST by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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bttt


5 posted on 02/28/2011 4:02:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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I don’t know what to do except pray for this little fella. What a tragic sroty if it unfolds the way this hospital (Canadian govt right?) Has its way


6 posted on 02/28/2011 4:04:28 PM PST by sappy (criminalDEMs)
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Father Frank Pavone has offered to pay for Baby Joseph's transportation to the US and for his care, the Schindlers (Terri Schiavo's family) have also offered their support.
7 posted on 02/28/2011 4:05:33 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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This is but a glimpse into the future... where government panels, doctors and the “elite” will want to make these decisions for you... and use force if you disagree.


8 posted on 02/28/2011 4:07:58 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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That would be nice, but the hospital would probably prevent that. This is just me guessing, but I believe once they get on a course of death, they don’t want to be embarrassed or vilified and have any other outcome—even if it is only for a few months of life. I think they will do all they can now to make sure that baby dies to justify what they have been doing. The vast majority of the public will soon forget and the hospital will be business as usual.


9 posted on 02/28/2011 4:09:21 PM PST by beaversmom
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Though doctors have said Joseph is in a “vegetative state," Dr. Byrne called it a “made-up term” similar to the notion of “brain death,” which he said was invented “simply to get beating hearts for transplantation.”

Important words to remember.

Do not let doctors tell you your loved one is
a "vegetable"
or "in a vegetative state"
or "brain dead."

These are made-up terms, as Dr. Byrne says.

They were made up by an arrogant class of doctors/bureaucrats/organ profiteers, in order to convince frightened or confused family members to take their loved ones off of "life support," when this is often not in the patient's best interest.

10 posted on 02/28/2011 4:24:15 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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And they’re threatening to sue people for suggesting they want to kill the child, even though they’re obviously doing whatever they can to kill the child.


11 posted on 02/28/2011 4:24:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Eventually, the Admin Mod will zot Islam. It's not a quesiton of if, but when.)
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I am of two minds on this. On one hand I am the father who wants to prolong the life of the child as long as possible.

On the other hand is the person who knows that even with the tracheotomy, it is just delaying the inevitable, and during that whole time, the parents are asking other citizens to continue to pay the huge medical costs so that they can spend a few more weeks with their dying baby.

I think that instead of appealing to the Canadian health care system, I would spend the time begging God to spare my child.


12 posted on 02/28/2011 4:24:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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It’s beyond me why anyone would ever trust a “doctor” who doesn’t know the difference between vegetables and human beings.


13 posted on 02/28/2011 4:26:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Eventually, the Admin Mod will zot Islam. It's not a quesiton of if, but when.)
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the parents are asking other citizens to continue to pay the huge medical costs so that they can spend a few more weeks with their dying baby.

First of all, the cost of a tracheotomy is next to nothing.

Secondly, Canadians PAY FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE in the form of very high taxes.

Finally, there are groups that are entirely willing and able to pay for Baby Joseph's care:

Fr. Pavone, the ‘Terri Schiavo Priest’, will pay to bring Baby Joseph to U.S.


14 posted on 02/28/2011 4:36:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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a doctor refusing to do such a simple proceedure is just plain egotistical and evil..


15 posted on 02/28/2011 4:41:16 PM PST by goat granny
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“On the other hand is the person who knows that even with the tracheotomy, it is just delaying the inevitable”

Hard to say that it is inevitable when they don’t know the cause. Besides, this is a relatively simple procedure that well allow the parents to take care of him for however long he has so why not?


16 posted on 02/28/2011 4:47:39 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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That is what I was thinking..but the hospital would have to approve it..


17 posted on 02/28/2011 4:48:37 PM PST by RnMomof7
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On the other hand is the person who knows that even with the tracheotomy, it is just delaying the inevitable, and during that whole time, the parents are asking other citizens to continue to pay the huge medical costs so that they can spend a few more weeks with their dying baby.

That is the problem with National health care.. the bottom line is ALWAYS money

18 posted on 02/28/2011 4:50:25 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Though doctors have said Joseph is in a “vegetative state,” Dr. Byrne called it a “made-up term” similar to the notion of “brain death,” which he said was invented “simply to get beating hearts for transplantation.”

Money quote.

19 posted on 02/28/2011 4:50:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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And the parents want to care for him at home, which will cost the state little to nothing, compared to hospital care.


20 posted on 02/28/2011 4:51:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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