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Ice, Ice Baby – Iceland’s people give cold shoulder to paying for acts of reckless bankers.
Mandelman Matters ^ | 2/22/2012 | Martin Andelman

Posted on 02/22/2011 5:50:53 AM PST by Chunga85

When Iceland’s online bank, Icesave, failed, the British government stepped in and covered $3.8 billion in deposits that its citizens were owed by the bank. The Dutch government did the same to the tune of another $1.8 billion. Iceland’s three largest banks collapsed as a result of the meltdown in the global financial markets and the result was that the country’s deposit-insurance, like our FDIC, was overwhelmed.

Now, the British and Dutch governments want their money back, but Iceland’s people are saying, well… no, not to put too fine a point on it. You might even say that the Icelanders are saying: “Hell no!”

The BBC is reporting that the British and Dutch governments say they’re disappointed that after over a year and a half trying to reach an agreement, their best offers continue to be rejected.

Most recently, Iceland’s President Olaf Ragnar Grimsson vetoed the latest repayment plan proposed by London, saying that the people along with the Althingi, the name of Iceland’s thousand-year-old Parliament, will decide this matter. The latest deal offered allows for repayment by 2046 at about a 3% APR, which many in Iceland say are egregious terms.

The country’s parliament voted for a referendum on the Icesave bill that is scheduled for March 6th, but the BBC’s story says that Iceland’s government hopes that a deal can be reached before that date, presumably because the people are expected to vote no… again.

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Last time out, back in 2009, 93.2% of Iceland’s voters rejected the bill, and ‘yes’ votes came in third at only 2,599, because 6,744 voters turned in blank ballots. The Icelanders are not happy. Many blame the EU for failing to regulate the bank, and workers interviewed responded by saying things like, and I’m paraphrasing here… “Why should we have to pay for the reckless acts of a handful of greedy bankers?”

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1 posted on 02/22/2011 5:51:00 AM PST by Chunga85
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To: Lurker; FromLori; azhenfud; Wolfie; UCFRoadWarrior; servantoftheservant; Kartographer; ...

Only in America ping.


2 posted on 02/22/2011 5:52:00 AM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Chunga85

So the British and the Dutch have been burned by Iceland?


3 posted on 02/22/2011 5:54:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Chunga85

A precedent we should remember when other countries or even our own states come begging Uncle Sucker for a bailout.


4 posted on 02/22/2011 5:57:00 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Chunga85

The Icelandic people should insist that the involved bankers be indicted & tried before repayment is made.

I suspect the Brits & Dutch insisting on repayment will then quietly go away.


5 posted on 02/22/2011 5:58:17 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Chunga85

People who commit fraud or who drive their business to failure should be punished, not rewarded. Bailouts are rewarding bad behavior. Bailouts are a no-no.


6 posted on 02/22/2011 6:00:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Chunga85

Iceland the soon to be known as ‘Dead Beat Island’! (sarc)


7 posted on 02/22/2011 6:03:59 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well it was the depositors who were bailed out i.e. many Icelanders. Now they don’t want to repay the bailout? Tough call but shouldn’t the repayment terms been written into the bailout?

There are other solutions if they don’t want to agree to a bailout. As in the British navy could patrol Icelandic waters permitting British and Dutch vessels to harvest.


8 posted on 02/22/2011 6:13:22 AM PST by Justa
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To: Justa
I would feel morally obligated to repay any debt for which I signed a note.

Did the voters of Iceland sign a note? Or did some banker or government bureaucrat indicate that the voters would probably repay a loan for which the voters were not actually a party?

The ruling class have become looters as far as I'm concerned.

9 posted on 02/22/2011 6:22:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Justa

The people that the British and Dutch governments bailed out where their own citizens who had deposits in the Icelandic banks, not Icelandic depositors themselves (not directly, anyway). But of course, their propping up of the banks indirectly helped the Icelanders.

Iceland is a very feisty, ornery, and independent little country. Should be interesting to watch.

}:-)4


10 posted on 02/22/2011 6:51:51 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Chunga85

who they gonna call when the borrowed money runs out and the next time their financial system collapses?


11 posted on 02/22/2011 6:54:55 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Chunga85

People don’t see why they have to pay for rich people’s mistakes. If I ran out of money, would the bank bail me out? They’d throw me out on the street.

Its time the banks lesson that lesson.


12 posted on 02/22/2011 6:55:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chunga85
Why should we have to pay for the reckless acts of a handful of greedy bankers?”

Actually, I don't blame them for not wanting to pay the tab.

When one considers that the prospect of having one's house, goods, and chattel sold off and living one's life in bondage, sold (along with their issue) to pay their debts, once served as a deterrent to financial recklessness, the absence of such servitude in our modern times and the bondage of an entire nation for the actions of a few individuals is indeed an unsavory prospect.

If the few will be rewarded, the few should take the risks.

If they merely take the rewards and stick the country with the tab, they should be faced with the very real prospect of being hunted to the ends of the earth.

13 posted on 02/22/2011 7:05:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: silverleaf

I know they won’t be calling American accounting firms or Moody who both declared everything peaches and cream until it all fell apart.


14 posted on 02/22/2011 7:53:28 AM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>So the British and the Dutch have been burned by Iceland?<<

No, they were burned by investing in banks that failed. Their beef is with the banks.


15 posted on 02/22/2011 8:15:30 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>I would feel morally obligated to repay any debt for which I signed a note.<<

I’m the same way. After my divorce in the late 90’s and some financial difficulty that naturally followed, an attorney recommended filing for bankruptcy, but we felt obligated.

However, if I had a secured loan, I’d either sell the security and pay back the loan or simply give back the security and be done with it. That is why banks ask for 20% down on a home loan - to ensure you have skin in the game. Giving people a 100% (or more) loan for a piece of real estate is rather risky. As many banks have learned.


16 posted on 02/22/2011 8:20:48 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Chunga85
Many blame the EU for failing to regulate the bank

Why? Iceland is not part of the EU.

17 posted on 02/22/2011 8:27:05 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke; All
This is near a two hour time investment but goes into some detail on this particular meltdown.

Inside Job

I think the arrogance is what makes me most angry.

18 posted on 02/22/2011 8:44:20 AM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Chunga85

Big download. I’ll better try this from home tonight.


19 posted on 02/22/2011 9:01:33 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Privatize the gains, socialize the losses. What a plan!


20 posted on 02/22/2011 9:04:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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