Posted on 02/21/2011 7:44:33 AM PST by SE Mom
Ongoing live thread for developments in North Africa and the Middle East.
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Libyan justice minister resigns in protest at 'excessive use of violence against protesters,' Quryna newspaper says - Reuters 6 minutes ago via breakingnews.com
Group of Libyan Muslim leaders says rebelling against Libyan regime is everyone's divine duty - Reuters 33 minutes ago via breakingnews.com
Anti-government protests break out in Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf, Libya's Quryna newspaper says - Reuters about 1 hour ago via breakingnews.com
Police station in suburb of Libyan capital of Tripoli is on fire, according to a Reuters reporter on the scene about 2 hours ago via breakingnews.com
Europe plans for Libya evacuation: EU foreign ministers discuss plans to transport citizens out of Libya, as vio... http://aje.me/dMmkVb 4 minutes ago via twitterfeed
Thank All for updates. Setting the drink down.
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2822.htm
Interesting interview with the Egyptian military on MEMRI.
3 things:
1. Suleiman has zero authority in Egypt, and is at home.
2. The passing of the Iranian ships were because according to Egyptian law, they will not stop a passing of a ship unless the Egyptians are at a time of war with the country of that ship.
3. They stated that the Muslim Brotherhood are equally Egyptians and have every right to be part of the government.
Thanks for the map.
Unreal- I’ve been on one of those huge catamrans years ago- they’re fine- but I grew up sailing on real catboats and I like one hull underneath.
Not sure if it was even posted here- but I read that Canada had sent a passenger plane over and couldn’t find any Canadians so went back empty. I guess communication isn’t too swift right now..
Libyan_American Please spread the word to everyone you know: there are major crimes against humanity taking place right now in #Libya #Genocide #Tripoli
7 minutes ago via web
Retweeted by AliTweel
Not less than 40 person injured and dead in soug aljoumaa, via a doctor there
4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
mercs are trying to go in soug aljoumaa via 11 june road but the people are fighting them, lots of guns and snipers might be in the area
33 minutes ago via Echofon
tonymrstablelad: RT @RRowleyTucson: #Tripoli is in heavy battle right now.
5 minutes ago via web
bnnlibya: RT @libyansrevolt: demonstrators left tajura area and marched towards soog eljum3a area - mowed down by bullets near elhaany bridge #libya #tripoli #feb17
5 minutes ago via web
Oh man- it is coming down to the end..or one of the ends:
The Mitiga air base is confirmed to have fallen in Tripoli. #Libya. #Ghaddafi. Planes that strafed citizens took off from here.
14 minutes ago via web
ian_black RT @exiledsurfer: RT @septimius_sever: @Libya_United MITIGA AIRBASE IS CONFIRMED BY ARMY AIRFORCE COMMANDER THAT IT IS WITH THE PROTESTERS!
28 minutes ago via web
Retweeted by martinchulov and 40 others
I read about the Canadian plane and was really surprised that they left without taking anyone.
Are the Americans who just left really on a catameran? Does anyone have a pic of this ferry? From what I read there’s approx 250 people on it.
There are some enormous catamarans- haven’t any more info on ours- they may have done a news blackout on location etc.
Meanwhile:
GRAPHIC IMAGES
http://on.fb.me/gjgBtM more videos being leaked from Tripoli of those dead #Libya #Feb17
23 minutes ago via web
From across The Pond....
“{ Not less than 40 person injured and dead in soug aljoumaa, via a doctor there “
Hey - I have a question —
Has anybody here *ever* seen any reports of casualties on the Government side???
One would think that, if the ‘protesters’ (whoever they are - I’m still not clear on who/what’s organizing ‘em) were enjoying all of these ‘great victories’, they’d be trumpeting the abject defeat of their adversaries...
I’m having a “dog that didn’t bark” moment, here....
Gaddafi is speaking to supporters. It’s on Al Jazeetra English.
Can't blame Facebook, it is representative of humans being humans and long-term, helpful. But there is a lot of social adjustment to be made in how people react to mob events and crowd goading even when that is via the internet mob sites like Facebook, Twitter and many others that are more used in Asia and the Middle East.
What made me laugh was this "'We are here for change, to improve the situation of the country. The education system is bad. The health system is also bad. Services are going from bad to worse,' said 27-year-old Lina Ali, part of a protest youth group on Facebook."
Mobs don't ever make things better, they always make it worse, a far so.
We are lucky here state-side. We have two opposition groups right now, and one faux-opposition group -- the Unions. Who are the two US groups? The Tea Party and the States. Who are they opposing? They oppose the tyrannical and dictatorial crony-socialist state now in control of the Executive, the Bureaucracy, the Senate, the Media, the Colleges, the Schools and the 'non-profits'.
The important thing is that all three groups now rising in opposition are highly organized. We are not mobs. Our outcome will be good because of that.
Yes, idiots like Frances Piven, Obama, Trumpka, Ayers-Dohrn, Code Pink, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Iranian 12er's and the immature-super-wealthy founders of Google and Facebook are pushing a mob rebellion worldwide and in the US.
But the US will work out differently than they expect and so will China. We in in for rough times, but we will pull through well. And maybe very well.
From what I’ve seen over the last week+ the protest groups have been very careful giving casualty numbers. Reporters making their way into Libya have backed up the numbers as accurate. The only report I’ve seen about government losses is that 130 soldiers were killed for not firing on protesters. It could just be that they have no way of knowing what the losses are. There were reports last night that government had people in the streets cleaning and removing bodies. No one can say where they were taken.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/37d3c100-404d-11e0-9140-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1EzV08Ex8
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Analysts also warned about armed loyalists, who include not just regular soldiers but a militia known as the 32nd Brigade, led by the ruler’s fifth son, Khamis.
US diplomats referred to the so-called “Khamis Brigade” as a special forces outfit that “serves as a regime protection unit”, according to a March 2009 cable released by WikiLeaks and seen by the Financial Times. Later that year they describe it as “the most well-trained and well-equipped force in the Libyan military”.
In December 2009 the diplomats referred to an offer made for Khamis to travel around the US to tour military installations.
Libya experts said the colonel also had citizens’ militias and African mercenaries, which have long been a plank of his security strategy.
~snip~
Uhmmm...while this is hard to believe- it seems Gaddafi is in Tripoli in Green Sq addressing the crowds: (WTH?!)
1703: More from Col Gaddafi: “This is the (Libyan) people that brought Italy to its knees... Sing, dance, and prepare. I am amid the masses, and we shall fight, and we shall defeat them.”
1701: Some quotes are emerging from Col Gaddafi’s address to people at Green Square. “Prepare to defend Libya. Prepare to defend petrol, prepare to defend dignity.”
1659: Those Libyan state TV pictures show a crowd of Gaddafi supporters holding placards while the Colonel addresses them. It turns out the pictures were probably filmed earlier today.
1656: Libya’s state TV is now showing pictures they say are live of Col Gaddafi at Green Square in Tripoli. He’s addressing supporters.
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