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Tea Party Patriots Org strikes Libertarian Iceberg...
TCH | February 19, 2011 | TCH

Posted on 02/18/2011 10:20:56 PM PST by TCH

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To: HMS Surprise

You missed the point by a mile... TPP Org is refuting any inclusion of “social issues” in its platform (although everything inevitably is a “social” issue). This tact is in direct opposition to conservative principles—and the Constitution’s foundation: UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, which are just that because they come from God, not government. What TPP is doing is fraudulent to the very conservative principles they pronounce themselves to uphold. In other words, they practice deception for the sake of gaining conservative members. That deception is revealed, and for that reason, TPP is losing membership.

Good night


61 posted on 02/19/2011 12:10:52 AM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: TCH

“How would you like if I made you party to a contract without your consent, and enforced a liability upon you that you had no part in creating?”

Now you sound like a libertarian.


62 posted on 02/19/2011 12:14:03 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Read Frederic Bastiat’s work, “The Law” ... He was not a libertarian.

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

You may have the last word... I am off to bed. Good Night.


63 posted on 02/19/2011 12:20:13 AM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: TCH

Winning The Future?


64 posted on 02/19/2011 12:22:52 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: HMS Surprise

Uhm, methinks TC was refering to individual morals.


65 posted on 02/19/2011 12:32:19 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: TCH

BOOKMARK


66 posted on 02/19/2011 1:11:13 AM PST by RebelTex (Freedom!! It's not just another word.)
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To: HMS Surprise

There is no Tea Party. It is just frustrated people wh heard Santelli get frustrated about the scam an took it from there. The mess is a mess and it is time to evolve.


67 posted on 02/19/2011 1:16:20 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: HMS Surprise
Where is this moral order to come from?

From we the people, living under Natural Law.

68 posted on 02/19/2011 2:01:34 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: HMS Surprise; GeronL; TCH
Back to TC’s misbegotten post: Was there a Tea Party Candidate that was Pro-choice? I can’t think of one, and since I can’t think of one TC’s post seems to be a gnat-straining marathon at this point.

Nan Hayworth, 19th NY.

69 posted on 02/19/2011 3:03:55 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: Publius6961; TCH

I was reading your post, then quickly abandoned it as soon as I got to the typo.


70 posted on 02/19/2011 3:06:34 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: TCH
Good vanity. You're right, although I don't see how anyone was deceived by the tea party vis a vis its insistence on being a “fiscally conservative” movement only. I heard many times that those involved did not want to discuss/support any of the social issues so as not to divide the participants who all agreed on smaller government, less taxes and less spending.

Whether you're talking about the movement or an actual organization, I'm surprised to hear that they are losing participants at this late date due to social issues. It's news to me.

71 posted on 02/19/2011 3:31:37 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: FreedomNotSafety

How moral is defaulting on Social Security because generations of potential taxpayers were aborted?

Food for thought.


72 posted on 02/19/2011 3:35:46 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall
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To: TCH

My question is, who defines what is moral and what is not? Some democrat socialist that just happens to be in power? Or pat buchanan, if he happens to be in power??? slippery road either way..


73 posted on 02/19/2011 4:54:48 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: TCH

To TCH: Tsk!


74 posted on 02/19/2011 5:01:20 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: TheVitaminPress

It is easy to think the State has a lot of different objects — military, political, economic, and what not. But in a way things are much simpler than that.

The State exists simply to promote and to protect the ordinary happiness of human beings in this life. A husband and wife chatting over a fire, a couple of friends having a game of darts in a pub, a man reading a book in his own room or digging in his own garden — that is what the State is there for. And unless they are helping to increase and prolong and protect such moments, all the laws, parliaments, armies, courts, police, economics, etc., are simply a waste of time.

C. S. Lewis


75 posted on 02/19/2011 5:07:58 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: thecabal

“Plenty of conservatives who like Big Government, as long as it imposes their own will on the populace.”

Yeah. I’ve been flamed for pretty much saying what you’ve said. I’m getting a little tired of the slandering of people who want Constitutional government by those claiming to be conservatives.


76 posted on 02/19/2011 5:12:57 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: thecabal

“It’s obvious you have no idea what libertarianism is about, other than the caricature that you use to beat up.”

Very obvious


77 posted on 02/19/2011 5:17:28 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: TCH
A Catholic attorney correctly summarized the failings of the libertarian philosophy thus: "Libertarianism has to do with maximum individual freedom, without restraint or limitation. The libertarian principle is thus antithetical to the concept of morality...

No, this is perfectly incorrect. Morality, being the subject of self-constraint, is not determined at all by restraints or limitation external to the object of moral study. It is morally correct for a man to restrain himself from robbing a bank when there is nothing which would limit him from doing so. It is not morally correct for a man to desire to rob a bank, however much he is successfully thwarted. The quote demonstrates the moral incompetency of the attorney.

78 posted on 02/19/2011 5:31:09 AM PST by Brass Lamp
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So if millions were not aborted default would be moral?

Or do you mean default is immoral because millions were aborted?

I don’t see the linkage either way.


79 posted on 02/19/2011 6:22:31 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: TCH

The Tea Party Patriots’ Facebook page is overwhelmed by trolls. It seems like 80% of the posts are against them, many of them with foul language or racist slurs - yet they stay there undeleted. I can’t understand how they can’t afford to hire a moderator to deal with these trolls. Are they broke?


80 posted on 02/19/2011 6:44:05 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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