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To: little jeremiah; EDINVA; mojitojoe; dalight; bushpilot; jamese777; Mr Rogers
In this battle to establish or re-establish the constitutional eligibility rules for Presidential candidates, the Leftists are not the real problem.

The problem is that the Establishment GOP and the RINOS in elected office on the local, state, and federal level are monolithic in their entrenched positions against those questioning the eligibility of Barack Obama to have run for, and occupy the office of POTUS.

With the exception of a few state legislators who have loudly promised, although not delivered, to enact eligibility legislation at the state level, not one Republican Congressman, not one Senator, not one governor, not one state AG has uttered a word of support to us. Can you not imagine how much farther down the road we would be with one nationally recognized elected Republican on our side? The Leftists have pulled off an anti-constitutional coup and the Republicans remain silent.

If I had a dollar for every elected Republican who has uttered the "Born in Hawaii" mantra, Freerepublic would never have another fundraiser. I have not heard one (1)elected Republican even approach the "Natural Born Citizen" issue. On the talk radio side, an almost unbroken wall of silence. Mark Levin wrote a book about the Constitution, but he has no commentary on Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, I must assume his dog ate Article II from his copy of he COTUS. But he is not alone. The powerful Limbaugh? a few jibes about the birth certificate brouhahah. About NBC, precisely nothing. Hannity? Nothing. O'Reilly (who is an operative of the Democrat Party) mockery. Coulter? Ditto. That, by the cold light of dawn, is where we are with this.

Those who disagree with us from the left, no matter what their motives, are at least open about it. It is IMHO, tragic that those who should agree with us about a traditional interpretation of Article II are hostile at best, and work against us at worst.

Given the above, it is nothing short of miraculous that the legal efforts we support have gotten this far. Through Attorney Hemenway, the issue is once again at least in conference at the SCOTUS. That tells me we are closer to having our grievance at least addressed in the right venue.

We have moved the issue from nowhere to somewhere, with NO support from our political party and those whom we have elected to represent us.

285 posted on 02/19/2011 10:55:53 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (With a friend like Obama, a country needs no enemies.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

As my Aussie and NZ friends say, “Too right”.


286 posted on 02/19/2011 10:58:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kenny Bunk

In this battle to establish or re-establish the constitutional eligibility rules for Presidential candidates, the Leftists are not the real problem.
The problem is that the Establishment GOP and the RINOS in elected office on the local, state, and federal level are monolithic in their entrenched positions against those questioning the eligibility of Barack Obama to have run for, and occupy the office of POTUS.

With the exception of a few state legislators who have loudly promised, although not delivered, to enact eligibility legislation at the state level, not one Republican Congressman, not one Senator, not one governor, not one state AG has uttered a word of support to us. Can you not imagine how much farther down the road we would be with one nationally recognized elected Republican on our side? The Leftists have pulled off an anti-constitutional coup and the Republicans remain silent.

If I had a dollar for every elected Republican who has uttered the “Born in Hawaii” mantra, Freerepublic would never have another fundraiser. I have not heard one (1)elected Republican even approach the “Natural Born Citizen” issue. On the talk radio side, an almost unbroken wall of silence. Mark Levin wrote a book about the Constitution, but he has no commentary on Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, I must assume his dog ate Article II from his copy of he COTUS. But he is not alone. The powerful Limbaugh? a few jibes about the birth certificate brouhahah. About NBC, precisely nothing. Hannity? Nothing. O’Reilly (who is an operative of the Democrat Party) mockery. Coulter? Ditto. That, by the cold light of dawn, is where we are with this.

Those who disagree with us from the left, no matter what their motives, are at least open about it. It is IMHO, tragic that those who should agree with us about a traditional interpretation of Article II are hostile at best, and work against us at worst.

Given the above, it is nothing short of miraculous that the legal efforts we support have gotten this far. Through Attorney Hemenway, the issue is once again at least in conference at the SCOTUS. That tells me we are closer to having our grievance at least addressed in the right venue.

We have moved the issue from nowhere to somewhere, with NO support from our political party and those whom we have elected to represent us.


The Republicans are tolerating the birthers in order to keep them voting Republican and not for an Independent or Third Party candidate.
Obama hopes to “divide and conquer” on the eligibility issue by forcing elected national Republicans to take a stand on the issue and hoping that alot of them will alienate the “birthers.” Thus far, Obama’s been successful.


287 posted on 02/19/2011 11:55:22 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Kenny Bunk; little jeremiah; EDINVA; mojitojoe; dalight; bushpilot; jamese777

“If I had a dollar for every elected Republican who has uttered the “Born in Hawaii” mantra, Freerepublic would never have another fundraiser. I have not heard one (1)elected Republican even approach the “Natural Born Citizen” issue. On the talk radio side, an almost unbroken wall of silence. Mark Levin wrote a book about the Constitution, but he has no commentary on Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, I must assume his dog ate Article II from his copy of he COTUS. But he is not alone. The powerful Limbaugh? a few jibes about the birth certificate brouhahah. About NBC, precisely nothing. Hannity? Nothing. O’Reilly (who is an operative of the Democrat Party) mockery. Coulter? Ditto. That, by the cold light of dawn, is where we are with this.”

Yes, it is lonely when you are the only honest defenders of the Constitution and the American way of life. After all, conservatism has long argued the value of Vattel. Why, I remember Buckley talking about him...

OR, OR, OR - you are simply WRONG about what the Constitution says. Even Vattel didn’t say ‘natural born citizen’ until 10 years AFTER the Constitution was written! The phrase, at the time the Constitution was written, had an established legal meaning. Until you think about what the Founders wrote, instead of pretending they wrote something else, you will continue to be lonely.

“With the exception of a few state legislators who have loudly promised, although not delivered, to enact eligibility legislation at the state level, not one Republican Congressman, not one Senator, not one governor, not one state AG has uttered a word of support to us.”

And you can’t imagine why? The only reason you can come up with is that EVERYONE is a traitor?

There is a lady near where I live who keeps buying and selling horses. She buys a good horse, rides it a while, decides it is poorly trained and disobedient, and sells it - and then buys another. As our farrier says, “After the 3rd horse, you’d think she realize the problem isn’t the horse but the rider!”

Maybe the problem isn’t with the GOP & talk radio, but with birthers?


292 posted on 02/20/2011 3:22:46 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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