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Why the Supreme Court has been compelled to hold a new hearing on Obama’s eligibility.
HillBuzz ^ | February 17,2011 | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 02/17/2011 8:31:53 PM PST by dalight

Drudge has linked this story from World Net Daily that notes the odd decision by the Supreme Court to hold a new “conference” on Obama’s eligibility to hold the presidency.

Let’s research WHY the court could be compelled to do this.

It MUST have something to do with the fact that Obama has no birth certificate on file in the Hawaiian Hall of Records with the name “Barack Hussein Obama” on it — since his original Hawaiian birth certificate with that name was sealed in the 1970s when he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, his stepfather. At the time of adoption, a child’s original birth certificate is sealed away and replaced in the Hall of Records by a new birth certificate that bears the adopted parents’ names and the child’s new name, if a new name is given.

This is what happened to Obama, when he was renamed “Soetobakh” by his mother and stepfather at the time of adoption.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; hillbuzz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetobakh; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: dalight
I can confirm the following from the article:
 
"I insist this because I have several friends who are adopted, as well as friends who have adopted children.  In all of these instances, the children’s adopted names are on the long form birth certificates on file for them in their respective states. Additionally, the adoptive parents’ names are what’s listed on the children’s birth certificates…NOT the birth parents.  The birth certificates with the birth parents’ names on them are filed away by court order and sealed from public view.  I am not even certain if the adopted children are able to obtain their own original pre-adoption birth certificates without a judge signing off on that."
 
I was adopted by my Mom's second husband, my Dad, when I was seven and I have an ammendment notation on my Birth Certificate.
 
I have known my birth father my entire life and my family.
 
I would never claim my birth name, the last name, as there is no legal force for anything I might sign.
 
 

81 posted on 02/18/2011 2:04:59 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: TheBigIf

His real name is MuBarak...


82 posted on 02/18/2011 2:05:54 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Frantzie

There you go.

Paid for oil money, no less.


83 posted on 02/18/2011 2:07:03 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: dalight

Will the Anti-Christ have a birth certificate??


84 posted on 02/18/2011 3:09:05 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: azishot
Soetobakh

I think the author meant "Soebarkah."

Google it an you will find a bunch of hits.

85 posted on 02/18/2011 3:46:49 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: patriot08
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

Just like the Global Warming Hoax, telling the truth on this issue is a nuclear hit for any politician. However, people confronted with this problem do what they can, force the issue by making it necessary to follow the law in the next cycle. However, just think, any Court or Prosecuting Attorney that cares can force this issue, how did Senator Ryan's messy divorce details become a matter of public necessity?

However, ultimately, reason and evidence prevails just as it did in the Global Warming situation, which is why a growing number of people smell smoke in this issue and at some point when the public generally accepts that this is another hoax like Global Warming, "Katie bar the doors!"

86 posted on 02/18/2011 4:14:05 AM PST by dalight
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To: presently no screen name

You misconstrue my point, PNSN. I was somewhat jokingly offering a new tack for his supporters. Because his background is so murky and there is such weak evidence about his parentage, they could use this clause to argue he was left in swaddling clothes on a doorstep somewhere (ie, “found”) and is thereby a NBC. I thought that would be a funny new approach for the leftist kooks to take. I wasn’t offering it as a serious defense of NBC.


87 posted on 02/18/2011 4:22:55 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: dalight

Did O’Reilly do any research as to why Hussein Obama has spent $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dollars in lawyer fees to keep his alleged legal BC under wraps?


88 posted on 02/18/2011 4:24:46 AM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: SatinDoll; Jim Robinson
Since you only joined FR this year, you missed all my lengthy disputations concerning the definition of Natural Born Citizen, which you’ve basically repeated in an abbreviated form on this thread.

You know I tried to go back in the record and find my own posts on this subject and it isn't easy, or I am missing something. It would be really great if a member could create listing of their own posts only, even better if this could be a text file, and if we could bound a search with a date range. Perhaps this is possible but I haven't figured it out.

89 posted on 02/18/2011 4:36:52 AM PST by dalight
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I just reviewed the U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 - Consular Affairs, Section 7 FAM 1100 ACQUISITION AND RETENTION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND NATIONALITY and Section 7 FAM 1110 ACQUISITION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH IN THE UNITED STATES and can find no definition of NBC.

Just because it isn't in this publication doesn't mean its not in another. I posted on this issue years ago and wasted about an hour trying to get back to the record but gave up in despair because I have been too chatty and going through 2 years of my posts was beyond the time I had available. If you know of a better way to comb through past posts, I am open to it because I cited the source and provided quotes.

90 posted on 02/18/2011 4:44:22 AM PST by dalight
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To: manc

Don’t forget Levin. He is wel versed when it comes to the constitution but practically mocks the issue. Boortz used to but when Neal the squeal couldn’t find it Boortz finally decided something isn’t right.

Savage, as much as some despise him has long called him an imposter. Bill Cunningham has talked the issue many times.

They are a lot of scaredy cats IMO . I haven’t seen Canada Free Press mention it recently either. wonder if the zero’s thugs got to them when he was in Canada .


91 posted on 02/18/2011 4:48:53 AM PST by tutstar
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Indeed, there are many who would argue that he was "found," not "born" given the complete absence of a historical record.

There are some really good posts in this thread, but this isn't one of them. No one cares if he is a Citizen except those who want to confuse the issue. They care if he is eligible to be the President.

Ultimately, this is where the "Emperor has no Cloths" issue comes in. Pretty much a working majority knows this is the problem, but it seems like petty hair splitting to those who have the power to act.

Yet, the wisdom of the requirement, which was questioned at the time when folks decided to not make a big issue of this, has been proven time and time again as Americans wonder if Obama has the interests of the US in mind. Yet now they (Congress, Courts, Politicians) are caught with being afraid to admit they have known this problem existed since before the election. Citizen action and action in the states ultimately will press this to the forefront and remove any political cover for those who are pushing this fairy tale and put heat on those who are attempting desperately to ignore it.

92 posted on 02/18/2011 4:54:29 AM PST by dalight
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To: bitt; FARS; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks!


93 posted on 02/18/2011 4:55:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Vendome
Vendome wrote:

His real name is MuBarak...

You may not be too far off the mark. Many members here know about Hawaii §338-17.8 and its ambiguity. Closer inspection reveals that any child under the age of 18 could be adopted and receive their certificate decades later without ever stepping foot on Hawaiian soil.

Hypothetically, Mr. Obama could have been born and raised in Egypt and, then been adopted by the Dunhams or any other resident of Hawaii prior to his 18th birthday. He would have been granted a bonifide birth certificate even after missing one for 40 plus years. All it takes is evidence that his legal parents or guardians resided in the state of Hawaii for 1 year prior to his birth or adoption. We know this did not occur based on divorce documentation.

Nonetheless, it is simply astounding this could, and most likely is happening on a frequent basis. 16 year old Egyptian foreigners being Adopted by 25 year old foreigners by simply being residents of Hawaii for 1 year? No problem. Here is your certificate.

This gaping hole in illegal immigration must be closed. It is amazing the Department of Health in Hawaii has not been investigated by a federal grand jury. The opportunity for fraud is so great, one could steer the Queen Mary right into Pearl Harbor full of foreigners every day for 100 years straight, pick up their certificates and sail back home, and not a single person in the remaining 49 states would be the wiser.

Add this to our overgrowing foreign invasion crisis. One can clearly see why the Department of Health in Hawaii is locked down tighter than Fort Knox.
94 posted on 02/18/2011 5:03:22 AM PST by devattel
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To: NeverForgetBataan

His mother was American.


95 posted on 02/18/2011 5:07:28 AM PST by southphilly
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To: devattel

“Closer inspection reveals that any child under the age of 18 could be adopted and receive their certificate decades later without ever stepping foot on Hawaiian soil.”

With actual place of birth noted.


96 posted on 02/18/2011 5:11:13 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: devattel

“Since we know the 14th Amendment in no way changed the definition of “Natural Born Citizen”, we must turn our attention to other definitions commonly accepted in 1787. The mere mention of this phrase is somewhat difficult to pinpoint, even at the time of the Convention. “

No it is not.

“The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” In this as in other respects, it must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution...

...It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established....


97 posted on 02/18/2011 5:15:00 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: freekitty
Actually whether or not he was born in HA is not the real question any more.
98 posted on 02/18/2011 5:18:03 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: dalight
Interesting theory but I still come back to the fact that it is known he was adopted. IMHO 0 would just have to man up and say. “Hey, I was adopted when I was young. My name was changed as is customary and I didn't like it when I got older so I used BHO.” Most people would find that perfectly acceptable. It would not stop the issue but slow it way down. The suppression of information is what feeds this fire.
99 posted on 02/18/2011 5:23:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: dalight

-——he actually has something in common with Gerald Ford——

This is a very fallacious argument.

The situations are not the same. Ford used his adoptive and legal name.

Barry Soetero chose not to use his adoptive name but to dredge up his birth name. He has lived a lie his entire adult life. His marriage is invalid, his kids names are invalid, he is screwed.

All the documents he signed are using a fictitious name and identity are null and void.

(if that is what really happened)


100 posted on 02/18/2011 5:23:58 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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