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To: ForGod'sSake

I want to point something out to people here on FR:

Montana’s governor is a Democrat.

The other governor who has taken on the Feds over wolves was a Democrat, Dave Freudenthal, former governor of Wyoming. Freudenthal sued the Feds and then set up a hunting season and plan for wolves in Wyoming. Over two dozen wolves were shot the first week Freudenthal’s hunting plan was open. The Feds then sued to stop it, and Wyoming and the Feds are still in court.

Republican governors talk a nice game on this issue, but they don’t back up their words with actions. Butch Otter wimped out on the issue last fall, tossing the ball back at the feds and saying “Golly, I tried...”

If Republicans want to be seen as the party that is going to lead on issues that make a difference to the bottom line of real business (instead of merely carrying water for Wall Street and multi-national corporations), the GOP should get their head out of their plush posteriors on these kinds of issues and show some leadership.


8 posted on 02/16/2011 9:25:52 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
He is a great governor who stands up for the 2nd amendment like nobody I have ever seen. Its hard to believe he is a Dem.
14 posted on 02/16/2011 9:28:58 PM PST by mrsixpack36
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To: NVDave; All

I want to point something out to people here on FR:

Montana’s governor is a Democrat.

The other governor who has taken on the Feds over wolves was a Democrat, Dave Freudenthal, former governor of Wyoming. Freudenthal sued the Feds and then set up a hunting season and plan for wolves in Wyoming. Over two dozen wolves were shot the first week Freudenthal’s hunting plan was open. The Feds then sued to stop it, and Wyoming and the Feds are still in court.

Republican governors talk a nice game on this issue, but they don’t back up their words with actions. Butch Otter wimped out on the issue last fall, tossing the ball back at the feds and saying “Golly, I tried...”

If Republicans want to be seen as the party that is going to lead on issues that make a difference to the bottom line of real business (instead of merely carrying water for Wall Street and multi-national corporations), the GOP should get their head out of their plush posteriors on these kinds of issues and show some leadership.


You make some excellent points. The GOP needs to start exerting leadership on some of these issues that the majority of Americans want action on.

On issues like Open Borders, Globalism, spending, lower taxes....if the GOP does not take lead on them now....they will lose to a Dem who will. Correct that the GOP needs to stop pandering to Wall Street and the Globalists...get back to America


18 posted on 02/16/2011 9:32:50 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Newt Gingrich and Chris Matthews: Seperated at Birth??)
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To: NVDave

Amen brother!


19 posted on 02/16/2011 9:33:08 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: NVDave

You make a very good point.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 9:33:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: NVDave

Yup, the GOP is the fGOP. F means “formerly,’ of course...


49 posted on 02/16/2011 10:35:09 PM PST by piytar (Obastard is a use of the term "bastard" in the literal sense -- Obama is hiding his daddy's identity)
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To: NVDave
Well, Dave, in Texas our Republican Governor and AG are "fed up" and they are standing up. Standing up to the EPA on fuel emissions. Standing up to Washington on ObamaCare. Standing up on border violence.

Are they perfect? Hail, no. But they aren't just lying down and taking it. I think a lot of the states between the Mississippi River and the Sierra Nevadas are mad as hell about Washington overreach and are fighting back in various ways. Nice to see a few renegade Democrats are too.

59 posted on 02/16/2011 11:23:37 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: NVDave

“Montana’s governor is a Democrat. The other governor who has taken on the Feds over wolves was a Democrat”

Ho! Wait a minute. Could this be trickery? To push something against the states and then give their own governors a chance to “stand up” to them? It makes these two look good.

Good cop, bad cop?


63 posted on 02/16/2011 11:59:56 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: NVDave

Great Point!


74 posted on 02/17/2011 4:28:07 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: NVDave

re: Western Dems vs. Republicans

My wife was telling me that Butch Otter reversed himself on the wolf matter, or at least backed off a bit.

For the life of me I can’t remember that (which at my age concerns me some!).

I’ll google it but remind me if you’re on the boards and have a moment today.

But you are entirely right as regards political courage generally.

Republicans are forever backing into and apologizing before and after the decisions they make. Look at them begging and wheedling about cutting the budget in D.C. while Obama smirks and preens about running the country off a cliff.

Obviously the press is a problem. Rush yesterday played a montage of the same old vicious stalinists attacking Newt and the boys back in ‘95-—”killing women, starving children, Klansmen, Nazis.” I am not exaggerating: that old black pusbag John Lewis bellowed at Newt: “You guys used to wear white sheets!” And another old woolly-headed scumbag said: “I fought you guys back in WWII!”

If you were around then, as I was, the press didn’t chastise them, it egged them on. And it is doing it again now.

But that is ever the case. Screw the press. We will deal with them later. I will say this much: I have grave reservations about Chris Christie but the one thing he has done (he did it again yesterday in an appearance in Washington) is set the example of how to deal with these people and these situations: You lay out your positions, you present them strongly, and if voices are raised, by God, you make sure yours is the loudest in the room.

You act like a man.

p.s. Thanks for your astute post.


86 posted on 02/17/2011 7:06:36 AM PST by dblup
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To: NVDave

You need to remember this is the same Governor who just misappropriated funds from a fund set up to clean up mining waste on the Clark Fork river, to buy the Dog Creek ranch ( which has never been mined and is 2 miles away from the Clark Fork River ) from his friend so his friend could make an 8 million dollar profit from the sale. Thus paying twice what the property was worth so his friend could make money.


103 posted on 02/21/2011 6:21:55 AM PST by mthip
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