Posted on 02/15/2011 11:11:02 AM PST by broken_arrow1
No I don’t need to know every last thing about Ron Paul to call him a Constitutional Conservative.
You’re backing Bachmann. I don’t want to attack Bachmann, because Bachmann is better than most.
If I wanted to, I could attack her record. I could look through her record, which is much much shorter than Ron Pauls, and find things conservatives could use to imply that Bachmann is not conservative.
Let’s just stick to real votes on real legislation. The RINO Bush signed a bunch of legislation that was passed by a Republican controlled House and Senate.
How did Ron Paul vote on that legislation?
Let’s stick to that, instead of a broader set, because no one is doing the research on every last thing done by every last candidate.
Find things that Conservatives don’t like, things that you don’t like, that were passed into law, and tell me where Ron Paul voted wrong. I’m not saying you’ll fail. I’m just saying let’s focus.
H.R. 1: No Child Left Behind Act of 2001
Sponsor: Rep. John Boehner [R-OH8]
Wow, ok, Boehner must go.
Co sponsors:
Richard Armey [R-TX26]
Spencer Bachus [R-AL6]
Richard Baker [R-LA6]
Cass Ballenger [R-NC10]
Bob Barr [R-GA7]
Judy Biggert [R-IL13]
Henry Bonilla [R-TX23]
Mary Bono Mack [R-CA44]
Henry Brown [R-SC1]
Richard Burr [R-NC5]
Ken Calvert [R-CA43]
David Camp [R-MI4]
Michael Castle [R-DE]
Saxby Chambliss [R-GA8]
Michael Collins [R-GA3]
Larry Combest [R-TX19]
John Cooksey [R-LA5]
Ander Crenshaw [I-FL4]
John Culberson [R-TX7]
Randall Cunningham [R-CA51]
Nathan Deal [R-GA9]
Thomas DeLay [R-TX22]
Jim DeMint [R-SC4]
Lincoln Diaz-Balart [R-FL21]
David Dreier [R-CA28]
Vernon Ehlers [R-MI3]
Robert Ehrlich [R-MD2]
Ernest Fletcher [R-KY6]
Vito Fossella [R-NY13]
Rodney Frelinghuysen [R-NJ11]
George Gekas [R-PA17]
Paul Gillmor [R-OH5]
Porter Goss [R-FL14]
Lindsey Graham [R-SC3]
Kay Granger [R-TX12]
Mark Green [R-WI8]
James Greenwood [R-PA8]
Melissa Hart [R-PA4]
Dennis Hastert [R-IL14]
Robin Hayes [R-NC8]
Van Hilleary [R-TN4]
David Hobson [R-OH7]
Stephen Horn [R-CA38]
John Isakson [R-GA6]
Darrell Issa [R-CA48]
Samuel Johnson [R-TX3]
Ric Keller [R-FL8]
Jack Kingston [R-GA1]
James Kolbe [R-AZ5]
Steven LaTourette [R-OH19]
John Linder [R-GA11]
Scott McInnis [R-CO3]
Howard McKeon [R-CA25]
John Mica [R-FL7]
Dan Miller [R-FL13]
Gary Miller [R-CA41]
Anne Northup [R-KY3]
Charles Norwood [R-GA10]
James Nussle [R-IA2]
Thomas Osborne [R-NE3]
Doug Ose [R-CA3]
Michael Oxley [R-OH4]
John Peterson [R-PA5]
Thomas Petri [R-WI6]
Charles Pickering [R-MS3]
Robert Portman [R-OH2]
Deborah Pryce [R-OH15]
Adam Putnam [R-FL12]
George Radanovich [R-CA19]
Marge Roukema [R-NJ5]
Edward Royce [R-CA39]
Bob Schaffer [R-CO4]
Edward Schrock [R-VA2]
Christopher Shays [R-CT4]
John Shimkus [R-IL20]
John Sununu [R-NH1]
John Sweeney [R-NY22]
Todd Tiahrt [R-KS4]
Patrick Tiberi [R-OH12]
James Traficant [D-OH17]
Frederick Upton [R-MI6]
Watts [R-OK4]
Curtis Weldon [R-PA7]
Frank Wolf [R-VA10]
Wow, look at all of those “Conservative” Republicans expanding Federal Control over Education. Not conservative at all.
Not many Republicans voted no. But Ron Paul voted No. So did Jim DeMint. Paul and DeMint are Constitutional Conservatives that vote right.
Here are some Republicans who are RINOs and voted Yes.
Boehner (mentioned before), Eric Cantor, Dick Armey, Tom DeLay, John Thune, Lindsey Graham, Pat Toomey, Robert Portman, Richard Burr, Roy Blunt, David Vitter, Dan Burton,
Mark Kirk, Saxby Chambliss, Mike Castle, JD Hayworth.
You get the idea.
Here’s the vote on the
Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act - another huge FedGov program.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll669.xml
Ron Paul was one of only 25 Republicans to vote no.
DeMint also voted no.
I want the US government to live within the US Constitutional bounds whether it is national defense, organized crime or drug. However I am least concerned about due process etc in the area of national defense.
But not surprisingly our new RINO from KY makes his stand with the Dims in an area to weaken our national defense while standing silent about the government having similar powers in other areas. But what can you expect from Mr. MS-NBC RINO.
Rand Paul most certainly is concerned about those other areas.
Is Rand not for ending the war on drugs? I know Ron is, but I really don’t know. I think Rand wants less FedGov spying pretty much anywhere.
Civil Liberties I guess aren’t the kind of Liberties you care about too much?
Limited Constitutional Government is RINO? Tea Party is RINO?
Less Government. Not more goverment, bigger government, more intrusive government.
Too bad you did not bother to read what I wrote. Not understanding what is going on leads to RINOs like Paul fooling people like you.
Rand Paul I guess is just too conservative for you.
No I am a big advocate of reading and reading comprehension. That is a conservative stance.
Conservative stances are pretty much unknown to RINOS and I guess RINO followers. But I am sure you and Rand Paul will still be welcome at MS-NBC. I have read your slogan is “Lean Forward.” So lean forward.
You like the police state? You’re from the RINO/Bush/Big Government wing of the Republican Party?
Lean forward as you watch your RINO buddy on MS-NBC.
Rand Paul is just too conservative for you, from the RINO/Bush/Big Government wing of the Republican Party.
We did not declare war
Anything else is just namby-pamby BS thrown up by anti-war douche-bags because the legislation didn't have the word "declare" right in front of the word "war".
If you want to argue that the War Powers Act is itself unConstitutional, then we can find agreement. To say stomping on a Dictator was somehow "wrong" because you didn't like the wording is idiotic.
I do think the War Powers Act is un-Constitutional.
“Stomping on a Dictator” sure was fun to watch on TV. Its too bad my son had his legs blown off so that so we could “Stomp on a Dictator”. We should definitely do more of that.
Sure Mr. Lean Forward.
Our worst enemies are within.
Indeed they are. One tried to kill hundreds with a car bomb in NY recently, and another murdered a bunch of soldiers at Ft Hood. Tip of an ugly iceberg.
Indeed they are. One tried to kill hundreds with a car bomb in NY recently, and another murdered a bunch of soldiers at Ft Hood. Tip of an ugly iceberg.
And yes. We should do more of that. People who attack us should be destroyed. Period.
Keep in mind that the "Patriot" Act did nothing to interdict those attempts, and even if it did, it would not be justified.
Also, our worst enemies are not trying to blow a few of us up, they are enslaving all of us and our posterity. At least, those of us that are not ripped apart in the womb.
Freegards!
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