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To: AnalogReigns
Ethics have always been a part of what conservatism means--and is what separates us from libertine libertarians. So while strictly speaking "religion" doesn't define conservatism, living in an unethical way denies conservatism.

Active homosexuals, who act by having perverted sex with persons of their own sex, are by definition unethical, and therefore, not conservative.

Not a good argument. Basically you state that anyone who violates any ethical standard cannot be conservative. Which would mean that anyone who has ever done anything wrong, ever, is not a conservative.

Which eliminates everyone.

220 posted on 02/15/2011 2:47:02 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Not a good argument. Basically you state that anyone who violates any ethical standard cannot be conservative. Which would mean that anyone who has ever done anything wrong, ever, is not a conservative.

Which eliminates everyone.

You're giving a too-literal, mechanical meaning to what I wrote. I also never said any ethic...

Obviously everyone is a sinner, that is we fail at the ethics we aspire to uphold--however, conservatives in politics uphold traditional Western Judeo/Christian ethics, even while they don't always keep them perfectly--and those who openly, actively and proudly oppose those ethics, as GOProud certainly does--cannot call themselves "conservative" in any meaningful sense of the word.

GOProud calling itself conservative, because they agree with conservatives say on economics, is like a Muslim calling himself Christian because he agrees with Christians there is one God.

In both there is a fundamentally different source, substance, and goal of ethics.

225 posted on 02/15/2011 9:23:46 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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