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To: Kaslin

I don’t see why “gay conservative” is an oxymoron anymore than “black conservative” or “Catholic conservative” or “atheist conservative.” Conservatism is not defined by Star’s religious views.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 8:12:22 AM PST by Chiltepe
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To: Chiltepe
Conservatism is not defined by Star’s religious views.

You totally miss the point. Star doesn't want conservatism defined by 'her' anything. She's a conservative, no adjective or hyphenation necessary.

However, GOProud is the one attempting to define conservatism and create disunity. It exists solely to put an adjective/hyphenation to conservatism and DEFINE conservatism as "anything goes" from a sexuality standpoint. Nah baby nah.

22 posted on 02/14/2011 8:18:35 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Chiltepe
The first problem with GOProud is it seeks only to desensitize Conservatives to homosexuality. THEY never go out to other organizations and seek to desensitize homosexuals to Conservatism.

They engage in a one way process ~ and we are on the wrong end of it.

24 posted on 02/14/2011 8:20:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Chiltepe

Because sexual identity politics only serves to push an agenda. Homosexuals can vote anyway they choose. They don’t need a sexually identified group to do so. But they do need it to push their agenda.


50 posted on 02/14/2011 8:48:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Chiltepe
I don’t see why “gay conservative” is an oxymoron anymore than “black conservative” or “Catholic conservative” or “atheist conservative.” Conservatism is not defined by Star’s religious views.

Would you have trouble with a "pro-welfare-state-conservative" or a "pro-pornography-conservative?"

Ethics have always been a part of what conservatism means--and is what separates us from libertine libertarians. So while strictly speaking "religion" doesn't define conservatism, living in an unethical way denies conservatism.

Active homosexuals, who act by having perverted sex with persons of their own sex, are by definition unethical, and therefore, not conservative. I'd say it is difficult if not impossible to be an "atheist-conservative" too, as atheism has no logical basis of ethics...which is the heart of conservative principles.

Homosexuals or atheists may have conservative ideas about certain areas, and be our allies in many ways, but ultimately they fall in the libertarian camp, and their ideas on family, or religion--are destructive to America.

69 posted on 02/14/2011 9:07:43 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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