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To: David
To get an elected candidate, you need to get an individual who is on the list of having received the most votes. In the case of 2008, that question is pretty simple--the only other person who got votes is John McCain and he isn't eligible to hold the office either (for the reason that he was born in Colon Panama which is not now and never has been a part of the Untied States).

McLame was ineligible from day one and the GOP knew it. The RATS knew it. Everyone knew it - just as they knew Hussein is/was/and always will be ineligible. That's just one more point of proof showing to what lengths the GOP went to to throw the election in order to distance themselves from the economic disaster that was looming.

There is another course. Presidents and VPs are elected on the same ticket. If one party is determined ineligible, then that voids the entire ticket. If the elector submits in ineligible vote, then he wasted it. They, imo, have no other option than to go back to the general election to see what "eligible" ticket recieved the most votes. The ticket recieving the most votes after McCain/Palin was Nader/Gonzales but iirc, Gonzales doesn't meet the NBC (two US citizen parents) requirement. Next down the list was Barr/Root.

Smells like Barr should have standing in an eligibility case.

48 posted on 02/12/2011 2:49:29 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

received!


49 posted on 02/12/2011 2:51:39 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

McLame was ineligible from day one and the GOP knew it. The RATS knew it. Everyone knew it - just as they knew Hussein is/was/and always will be ineligible. That’s just one more point of proof showing to what lengths the GOP went to to throw the election in order to distance themselves from the economic disaster that was looming.

There is another course. Presidents and VPs are elected on the same ticket. If one party is determined ineligible, then that voids the entire ticket. If the elector submits in ineligible vote, then he wasted it. They, imo, have no other option than to go back to the general election to see what “eligible” ticket recieved the most votes. The ticket recieving the most votes after McCain/Palin was Nader/Gonzales but iirc, Gonzales doesn’t meet the NBC (two US citizen parents) requirement. Next down the list was Barr/Root.

Smells like Barr should have standing in an eligibility case.


You can’t get elected president without receiving a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. Read the Twelfth Amendment, particularly the three words “...shall be President.”
Vice President Cheney counted and certified the votes of the Electoral College without objection from even one of the 535 members of Congress, therefore those three words kick in.


50 posted on 02/12/2011 3:12:08 PM PST by jamese777
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To: bgill
There is another course. Presidents and VPs are elected on the same ticket. If one party is determined ineligible, then that voids the entire ticket. If the elector submits in ineligible vote, then he wasted it. They, imo, have no other option than to go back to the general election to see what "eligible" ticket recieved the most votes. The ticket recieving the most votes after McCain/Palin was Nader/Gonzales but iirc, Gonzales doesn't meet the NBC (two US citizen parents) requirement. Next down the list was Barr/Root.

The votes that count under the twelfth amendment are those that come from the votes that are "transmitted and sealed" to the Congress which are votes of the designated electors. No one got "votes" as defined for President except John and Zero.

There is not authority for the proposition that a vote for an ineligible person voids the ballot and I tend to think that the Court would laugh at that argument--it isn't going to come down that way. That argument doesn't make any sense.

As to the "two parent argument", that is just another variation of the Vattel argument which has been eliminated by adoption of the 14th Amendment. I never heard of Gonzales; he didn't get any electoral votes; but if he had; and if he was born in the USA; he wins.

55 posted on 02/12/2011 6:28:18 PM PST by David (...)
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To: bgill

“McLame was ineligible from day one and the GOP knew it. The RATS knew it. Everyone knew it...”

Nope. His parents are both US citizens, and he was born in Panama while they were stationed there under valid military orders.

Same as my son and eldest daughter, who were born in Germany while my wife and I were stationed there.

WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


88 posted on 02/13/2011 12:32:00 PM PST by Old Student
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To: bgill
“There is another course. Presidents and VPs are elected on the same ticket. If one party is determined ineligible, then that voids the entire ticket.”

Nope again. Law says if the president elect is determined ineligible or becomes incapable of serving, the VP becomes president, and a new VP is selected...

89 posted on 02/13/2011 12:37:04 PM PST by Old Student
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To: bgill; David
McLame was ineligible from day one and the GOP knew it. The RATS knew it.

Yes, no question about it, but they ALL got snookered by political hack Jack Maskell for "CYA" including SCOTUS!!!

96 posted on 02/14/2011 6:27:26 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: bgill

>They, imo, have no other option than to go back to the general election to see what “eligible” ticket recieved the most votes. The ticket recieving the most votes after McCain/Palin was Nader/Gonzales but iirc, Gonzales doesn’t meet the NBC (two US citizen parents) requirement. Next down the list was Barr/Root.

Smells like Barr should have standing in an eligibility case.<

I would think since the first ticket of Obama/Biden is ineligible that the entire dynamic of the election would be changed. Anyone should be able to challenge as long as they had some “skin in the race” but Alan keys hasn’t gotten anywhere unfortunately.


109 posted on 03/02/2011 6:39:21 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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