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To: pissant

I’m a big fan of Michelle’s grasp of the issues, both domestic and foreign. I believe she truly understands Conservatism and comes down on the right sight far more often than some others I could mention.

That being said, I’m not convinced she has the experience necessary to become president. I’m open to the views of others on the subject. Most important to me is whether a person truly gets it or not. And the “IT” is what Conservatism truly is, and that it is worth pushing for full speed ahead.

We have some people who don’t grasp immigration. They don’t grasp globalism. They don’t quite understand who John McCain is, and why his policies would destroy this nation as surely as Obama’s would.

If a person truly gets it, I’d probably be willing to trade experience for them being truly grounded.

If Michelle were the candidate, she’d get my support in a heartbeat.


8 posted on 02/10/2011 10:45:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I hear you. I’d love for someone who possesses the conservative backbone and consistency and fearlessness of a Bachmann or Hunter or a DeMint, who understands the key issues of sovereignty & constitutionalism, and who has a proven track record of backhanding the liberal critics, to be in the race that had 10 years as a general or 2 terms as a gubner, or somesuch.

But look at the fools who are/were governors who are considering running. A veritable smorgasbord of limp wristed RINOs, amnesty queens, and careerists.


10 posted on 02/10/2011 10:59:53 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: DoughtyOne

If Bachmann gets the GOP nomination, and I don’t think she ever will, I’ll support her.

But I sincerely hope she is not the choice.


14 posted on 02/10/2011 11:12:04 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DoughtyOne
Most of the people with experience have the wrong kind of experience--playing Washington insider.

I'd much rather have someone that has a clear set of priciples and will follow them.

I like Bachmann, but as I've said before she has a huge skeleton in her closet: she attended Oral Roberts University.

Oral Roberts was a very controversial preacher. And I'm not just talking about to secular non-believers. The brand of Christianity he preached (prosperity gospel/seed-faith) is outside of mainstream Christianity (including evangelical Christiantiy).

From the following link: http://godwordistruth.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/prosperity-gospel-the-tragic-legacy-of-oral-roberts-seed-faith-perversion/

Prosperity Gospel: The Tragic Legacy of Oral Roberts’ Seed-Faith Perversion

Pastor John MacArthur wrote an excellent review “Measuring Oral Roberts’ Influence” commenting on the published obituaries following the passing of Oral Roberts on 15 Dec 2009. Pastor JM clearly set the straight facts on Oral Roberts’ infamous contribution to developing the tragic legacy of Seed-Faith perversion of the Gospel:

“Tragically, the Seed-Faith message usurped and utterly replaced whatever gospel content there ever may have been in Oral Roberts’ preaching. In all the many times I saw him on television I never once heard him preach the gospel. His message–every time–was about Seed-Faith. The reason for that is obvious: the message of the cross–an atoning sacrifice for sins wrought through Jesus’ sufferings–frankly doesn’t mesh very well with the notion that God guarantees health, wealth, and prosperity to the righteous. Our fellowship in Jesus’ sufferings (Philippians 3:10), and our duty to follow in His steps (1 Peter 2:20-23), are likewise antithetical to the core principles of prosperity doctrine. The prosperity message is a different gospel (cf. Galatians 1:8-9).”

“One thing all the obituaries agree on is that Oral Roberts paved the way for all the charismatic televangelists and faith-healers who dominate religious television today. He did more than anyone in the early Pentecostal movement to influence mainstream evangelicalism. He parlayed his television ministry into a vast empire that has left a deep mark on the church worldwide. In many places today, including some of the world’s most illiterate and poverty-stricken regions, Oral Roberts’ Seed-Faith concept is actually better known than the doctrine of justification by faith. The message of prosperity is now the message multitudes think of when they hear the word “gospel.” Countless confused people worldwide think of the gospel as a message about earthly, temporal, and material riches rather than the infinitely greater blessings of forgiveness from sin and the eternal blessing of the believer’s spiritual union with Christ.“

There have been real debates over how evangelicals would react if a Morman was nominated. What would happen if someone was nominated that was a follower of Oral Roberts? You're going to have some pretty serious religious debates (something we don't need to get sidetracked with right now). I expect a serious percentage of Christians would be turned off by the Oral Roberts connection enough to say no.

20 posted on 02/10/2011 11:35:28 AM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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