Posted on 02/10/2011 10:37:00 AM PST by pissant
Michele Bachmann, who is speaking on Thursday at CPAC, says she's still on the fence about whether she'll run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.
"I haven't made a decision one way or another," the Minnesota congresswoman said on Fox News. "Right now, what I'm trying to do is make sure we continue the national dialogue on the issues that are important to us. Certainly we will be discussing the identity of who our nominee will be but that can't dominate the next two years of the election cycle." Continue Reading
Bachmann largely spiked a question about former President Bill Clinton's comments that Bachmann was operating in "a parallel universe divorced from reality."
"I think the fact is the American people have overwhelmingly rejected the government takeover of health care," she said. "I think what this shows is incredible defensiveness on the part of not only the former president but current Democrat office holders who don't want to listen to what people are trying to tell them."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
I fell in luv then and there ;-)
I posted the entire text of the “Measuring Oral Roberts’ Influence” article here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2671690/posts
Anyone that is supporting Bachmann is going to have to deal with the Bachmann/Oral Roberts connection.
Isn’t that the truth...
Why do you say that BunnySlippers?
We could do a lot worse.
I don’t have any argument with the premise that causes you to come to the conclusion you have. I was raised in Joplin, Missouri, and I remember Roberts.
While I wasn’t an adherent by any stretch of the imagination, I watched enough of his presentations to come to the conclusion he was a fraud (IMO).
His constant calls for more money, and his phony healing sessions (again at least IMO), caused me to see him in a very negative light. Old women patrons of my grandmother’s nursing home would send him off checks. It didn’t sit well with me that they were hoodwinked into doing so.
For what it’s worth, my step-father was an ambulance driver. He stated that he more than once picked up people who WERE NOT healed in Robert’s sessions, and when he did they were beyond the point of any rescue on this earth.
Okay, we probably agree on this much. As for his message, I don’t disagree with you.
Now, does that mean that every kid who chose Oral Roberts University should be a political untouchable? Does it mean that vast numbers would refuse to vote for them?
I may be wrong, but I don’t thing that’s true. It’s certainly a point thinking people can disagree on, but I’m not convinced that she would be untouchable.
Look, if folks will vote for a guy who sat there and listened to Jeramiah Wright for twenty years, I think they can vote for someone who is a good person, and may have made a poor choice for graduate school earlier in their life.
What would be most important to me, is that they had a firm grip on what dangers face this nation
Look, we’ve had excellent practicing Christians who have been disasters as president. Jimmy Carter comes to mind. I’m not convinced individual personal doctrinal dogma is transferred to the nation by one of these individuals.
I don’t think Bachmann would be a threat of sorts if she was elected. I see it as just the reverse.
I appreciate your comments. I’m not seeking to discredit your thoughts, because I can understand why you voiced them. In the end, I’m not convinced the negative aspects you touched on would pan out.
Take care.
One thing I think we can agree on is that there is a double standard on how the press reports on Democrats and Republicans (particularly conservative Republicans).
They downplayed Obama & Wright (ignored might be a better word). I have no doubt they would do just the opposite when it comes to Bachmann & Oral Roberts. Not only would they focus on it, they would beat it like a drum.
Fair? No, but that’s the world we live in.
The other thing I think we can agree on is that consrvatives hold themselves to a higher standard than liberals do.
Liberals glady ignored any questions about Wright, because that’s just what they do—brush everything under the carpet and say “move along, nothing to see here.”
I don’t see conservatives doing that. They’ll examine the Oral Roberts connection to see if there is anything here.
Again, fair? No, but that’s just the way it is.
I don’t think this makes Bachmann untouchable (any more than Romney being a Morman makes him untouchable), but it’s part of the overall picture of Bachmann that people will build.
Completely irrelevant to this thread but the title reminded me of a little ditty we sang as third graders. Our teacher's name was Miss Spence and was probably about 30 years old.
Old lady Spence
sittin' on a fence
Tryin' to make a dollar outta fifteen cents.
We didn't chant it to her face of course and I know it's stupid, what do you expect out of third graders?
I agree with quite a bit of that. Let me ask you this.
Think about this for a moment, then read on. Why would you refrain from voting for Romney? Would it be Mormon related, or policy related?
For me, it would definitely be policy related. I don’t agree with Mormon beliefs, but I don’t consider them to be bad people per se. I think my valuables, wife, and kids would be safe in their company.
I don’t agree with Romney’s stances, and that’s all. I do agree with Bachmann’s, and that’s all.
Is your stance on Romney different than mine?
You mean like when she signed legislation giving benefits to partners of homosexual state employees? Or when she appointed a former Planned Parenthood board member to the Alaska Supreme Court?
Supporting homosexual activists that are pro-homo and in favor of gay marriage infiltrating the conservative movement is pro-homo in and of itself.
So, are vetoing laws that ban partners of homosexuals from receiving state benefits like she did in Alaska.
Tell me where Palin was when DADT was being repealed while Bachmann was fight against it.
Romney is a no go simply on his political record.
But I’ll be perfectly blunt, his religious beliefs would give me pause, simple because (imho) Mormanism doesn’t pass the “reasonable man” test—if you laid out all the evidence (for and against) would a reasonable person be able to the come to the conclusion that a religious belief is true?
There are a number of religions that pass that test. And I don’t just mean western religions. I’m talking Eastern religions too.
But Mormanism doesn’t. There are too many problems with it. A person couldn’t honestly examine all the evidence and come away with the opinion that Mormanism was the real thing unless: (1) they glossed over or ignored some of the evidence, or (2) had poor judgement skills.
A president with religious beliefs I don’t agree with (including being say a Hindu)? I can handle that; it wouldn’t be a problem. A president with poor judgement skills; that’s a problem.
You could say that same thing about Bachmann too. Only in her instance, her political beliefs are tried and true.
Romney’s policies on the other hand, are unsupportable by Conservatives. Your test seems to ring true with him, but the test seems to fail on her.
I remain unconvinced that Bachmann is a loyalist to the Robert’s mantra. I’ve known a lot of high school and college kids who went to parochial schools. The idea each one of them graduated with a die-hard devotion to the focused dogma is a very flawed perception.
You don’t know that Bachmann bought the Robertson dogma hook line and sinker. Here clear-headed thinking I’ve seen certainly wouldn’t lead me to think she was a fuzzy thinker at all.
Is she a person Republicans and Independents could support? I am convinced of it.
Look, this is a bell-ringer election. Obama is vulnerable. The last thing I want to do is replace him with some RINO clown.
Bachmann is the real thing. She gets it. We would be very lucky to have her.
Bachmann needs to go into overdrive!
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds does it?
She was pro-homo because she openly said GOProud should be welcome at CPAC. Bachmann endorsed GOProud being at the event.
Bachmann was out fighting against DADT while Palin was tweeting messages in favor of repealing it.
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