Posted on 02/10/2011 6:25:57 AM PST by Notary Sojac
It’s pretty easy to look at history and discover which posters are tunnel-visioned on one issue to the exclusion of anything else. Those are the posters I am most likely to ignore.
The media thrives on dividing America for their profits, while Hollywood thrives on corrupting it for their profits.
Social issues are used by the media to incense while keeping the minds of the American masses deflected from the real problem, which are the thieves who are in the process of plucking and plundering us.
We just saw trillions of our money disappear and go into the hands of the same few on Wall St. who played a big part in bringing our economy down. The Fed won’t even tell us where OUR money went.
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Well, that and the fact that Daniels never quit his elected position.
Others who support federalism are our friends, regardless of sexual orientation.
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WRONG. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Obama supports federalism. He says he does. So is he our friend? Look. If you want to open conservatism up to the fags with their agenda, then you are in the wrong place. I suggest you click here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
It appears that Palin has put her finger to the "political wind" and has seen how America deals with the subject of homosexuality. For many who call themselves Christian, it's really no big deal to them, as long as it's a "consensual relationship".
May God have mercy on her sold out soul; I sure won't when it comes to election time.
None of it is the Federal Government’s business. Conservatives who want their values legislated/adjudicated federally belong in the same bucket with liberals. All fighting over the prize of command and control central government.
Your religion is YOUR business just as mine is. Neither of ours or theirs belongs in federal government.
I agree. Are there a lot of closet cases over-reacting here? It's a subject very rarely discussed with my friends and acquaintances but discussed multiple times daily on FR.
But what should be expected from people who think homosexuality is determined by hair length or marriage to a member of the opposite sex, or the third son of Catholic families.
Absolutely correct, sir!!
Others who support federalism are our friends, regardless of sexual orientation.
You don't have a clue what federalism is, then again liberaltarians never do.
Under your theory, a state would be permitted to legalize murder, rape or even terrorism and there is nothing the federal government can do.
Are you aware that ALL of the Founding Fathers believed that abortion was murder and as such was a capital offense?
They also all believed that sodomy was a serious crime and in some cases warranted the death penalty.
I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as "enlightened" as moral relativists like you.
Your brand of "federalism" is DESTROYING the United States. You ARE NOT a conservative and you have no business being on a conservative forum. Begone troll!
So, sorry Sarah! You’ve just voted yourself off the island!
That is what I can see with my own eyes and the core of why they are not conservative. As far as Sarah, she is being a total politician, not in a good sense. Yes Goproud has a right to be there, but should they? We also do have a right to free association, do we not? (It's not totally gone YET) Who runs CPAC? Obviously not conservatives.
The homosexual agenda IS a major political issue because it is foundational to the future of our country. The way someone believes on that issue determines many other things.
I know gays. I don't care what they do in their personal life because they don't tell me about it, nor do they force me to learn that it is quite normal, which is what gay activists want to do in the schools.
Your remark about interring a person who had an abortion is a flat out lie and slander. I wonder if these gays also support federalism when it comes to abortion? Is abortion an issue for Federalism, or is life a basic human right?
You prove that remark because it is really low down.
The governments job IS to stay out of these issues. But you see the GOP has chosen to INSERT itself on these issues.
I have no problem with gays being in the party. They are people. I don't care to know their sexual preference, nor do I feel they should be denied any rights that I have with the exception of marriage. That is a sacrament between a man and a woman.
I will be waiting for you to post where I ever said anything about jailing a person who had an abortion. You should back that up or apologize.
Nope. I'm just saying those who are against thought control should also be against CPAC. It appears CPAC is a supporter.
There is no tolerance for homosexuals. The sheeple have been forced into learned helplessness via fear of litigation. Do parents REALLY want their 6 year olds to learn about this behavior? No, they don't, but their kids are getting it anyway. Do they REALLY want to hire some faggy girlie man at the front desk? No, but the new laws say they HAVE to. If I don't want to rent to one, why should I? Who decided we must "tolerate" their behavior? Who said we MUST accept their kinky behaviors? Who said?
If I peed my pants in public every day and sucked them dry, should my behavior be taught to children in the name of "equality" or "tolerance?" If I liked doing it, why wouldn't they be forced to tolerate it in the schools? Maybe they should be taught how to pee themselves as well? Where would be my "tolerance?"
Are you saying that person can't be a real social conservative unless he or she has a "personal relationship with Christ?" If so, then no wonder Jews overwhelmingly vote with the RATs.
Ding ding ding. IMHO, this is the reason that the conservative movement is fundamentally incompatible with a 'gay' group within it. Conservatives don't label themselves with an adjective. You're either a plain conservative or you're not. The sole reason for the existence of GOProud is to push their agenda, which is diametrically opposed to one of the three legs of the conservative stool. Listen to the GOProud (really?!) Board chair's statement on the debate over their sponsorship and recognition at CPAC:
See, they are already presuming to speak for the entire 'conservative movement'.
I believe they are going to find that Palin is MUCH more libertarian than they would like.
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I hope and pray you are wrong on this one. I’d sooner vote for Huckabee than a libertarian
GOProud Federal Legislative Priorities
1 – TAX REFORM - We support replacing the current tax code with the Fair Tax. Until then, we support death tax repeal; domestic partner tax equity; cuts in the capital gains and corporate tax rates to jump start our economy and create jobs; a fairer, flatter and substantially simpler tax code.
2 – HEALTHCARE REFORM – Free market healthcare reform. Allow for the purchase of insurance across state lines – expanding access to domestic partner benefits; emphasizing individual ownership of healthcare insurance – such a shift would prevent discriminatory practices by an employer or the government.
3 – SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - The only way to permanent solvency in the Social Security system is through the creation of inheritable personal savings accounts. Personal savings accounts would give gay and lesbian couples the same opportunity to leave their accounts to their spouses as their straight counterparts.
6 – FIGHTING GLOBAL EXTREMISTS – Standing strong against radical regimes that refuse to recognize the basic human rights of gays and lesbians, women and religious minorities.
7 – DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION – Opposing any anti-gay federal marriage amendment. Marriage should be a question for the states. A federal constitutional amendment on marriage would be an unprecedented federal power grab from the states.
8 – ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP – Package of free market reforms to encourage and support small businesses and entrepreneurship. Such reforms would create jobs for all Americans – including gay Americans.
And lest you be fooled by the inclusions:
Christopher Barron, GOProud Chairman of the Board: "We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people." Aug 4, 2010; 4:04pm
Where have I heard those words before?
ACLU Statement on Defending Free Speech of Unpopular Organizations
August 31, 2000
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NEW YORK--In the United States Supreme Court over the past few years, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken the side of a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. In celebrated cases, the ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party. In spite of all that, the ACLU has never advocated Christianity, ritual animal sacrifice, trading arms for hostages or genocide. In representing NAMBLA today, our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children. What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone. The lawsuit involved here, were it to succeed, would strike at the heart of freedom of speech. Link to ACLU and "robust" freedom of speech
I forgot, with child molestation "consent" isn't used. That's what your morality is based on, right?
At least throw the word "robust" in when you're talking about moral degenerates and their supposed "right" to speak freely.
Of course I do. I am Extremely conservative in my spiritual beliefs. Far more than most as I sense. This question came to my mind a few years back. If one is honest then that naturally leads to the next question.... Is my faith more like Jesus, or the Pharisee’s? Which then leads to the Next question, what was Jesus’ reaction to the Pharisees teaching? Which leads naturally to ask yourself, “Do I want to be on the receiving end of that?” Which then leads to “ If I am more pharisitical in whom I believe God to be, then Do I really know Who he really is at the core of his Character?”
One of the people that Dramatically changed my understanding of God’s character is a guy named Graham Cooke, (check him out on you tube)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIemlZsu-Ig. You will listen and go..... I have never heard this before, but I know in the core of my Spirit what he saying is true. Rocked my entire world.
I posted Reply # 96 before I read your comments.
See # 96. It applies to your comments also.
This is the very first time anywhere I’ve read comments suggesting Palin may be a lib (libertarian).
Maybe it’s a knee-jerk reaction to this thread and her ‘soft’ answer to gays at CPAC.
Conservatives will (and should) throw her under the bus if she goes libertarian on us.
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