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To: savagesusie
We are a nation of Laws which presuppose a Higher Power

no it doesn't. It presupposes a constitution.

You deny our Founding principles—that of laws of nature and God’s law.

Freedom, justice, and equality are our primary founding principles.

You claim there is no God and designer.

No I didn't. I claimed that you have no authority to deny God's salvation or the constitution's privileges and immunities to someone who has harmed no one.

You think “orientation” is genetic when it is not.

I have not put that forth as the single etiological factor in determining one's orientation. I think human children are inherently sexually polymorphous until they are firmly aware of the social taboos that frown on perversions.

You claim there are no moral absolutes (human nature can evolve (Marx/irrational). The Founders threw that idea out....they believe in immutable laws and unchanging nature of man.

some acts are absolutely evil, some aren't. I think we can agree that that which does harm to another is evil. Homosexuality harms no one anymore than heterosexuality. The crusade against homosexuality is what causes the harm by inciting division, hatred, confusion, intolerance, violence, and conflict. I also think it seeks to deny equality to American citizens who are doing no harm to anyone. Furthermore, I think the most vocal anti-gay voices belong to the gayest people. The founders did believe in change incidentally, that's why they incorporated an amendment process in the constitution.

Our Founders rejected atheism directly and firmly.

Our forefathers held a wide variety of beliefs. Thomas Paine was just short of an atheist for example. Benjamin Franklin was a member of the Hellfire Club whose motto was "do what thou will". We should also keep in mind that our forefathers codified slavery into the constitution and justified it through scripture. Just sayin'.

Natural Law Theory is the basis of our laws. Homosexuality goes against Natural Law Theory.

Do unto others as you would have done unto you is the ultimate natural law. Would you like to be denied equal protection under the law? Would you like to be condemned for something you have no control over? Would you like to routinely be discriminated against? Attacked? murdered for being different? Natural law is ambiguous. Constitutional law is not. Murder is always evil, right? Unless it is carried out in the name of some higher authority which protects the murderer against consequences.

97 posted on 02/12/2011 2:53:37 AM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

Your ignorance of Natural Law is not worth responding to—as all your assertions mimic the words of Herbert Marcuse, an absolutely evil, disgusting mind—right up there with Ginsberg who glorified sex with boys.

So “Do unto others” is a moral Law. That moral law is the one you are trying to eliminate—Your philosophy allows no God—NO revelation.. Singer the atheist, would say....then there is no meaning to life and it doesn’t matter what you do...or who you kill in the end.

I repeat, your worldview is Postmodern German Philosophy....I loathe it. I am a Modern and that is where my worldview comes from. Yours is Atheism—no God—you decide what is right and wrong with what “feels” right. You are quoting all atheists. Of course, you have to kill off God to make homosexuality a good, don’t you.

I let Revelation combined with Natural Law Theory decide what is right and wrong as did the Founding Fathers. Our CONSTITUTION grants us “God”-given rights which the cultural Marxist Post Moderns are trying to destroy.

Saying Heterosexuality is as destructive to the body as Homosexuality is quite a lie and laugh. Of course, if you are an immoral heterosexual....yes, you will have a very destructive lifestyle, also.

The sexual act in homosexuality is destructive—always is when you put something somewhere where it is never designed to go....It actually is quite disgusting and many of the Founding Fathers refused to talk about it.

They considered is extremely evil and instituted severe laws to discourage the behavior. Isn’t it interesting how culture glorifies people in media and schools who are aberrant and then—surprise—it is normalized like it was in pagan Greece and Rome. Postmoderns use Skinner and Pavlov for the conditioning of children’s minds. That in itself is so immoral and evil and we need to abolished the forced government school indoctrination centers. The Prussian design is right out of German philosophy to conform children to “group-think”.

I would never allow my children in public schools today because the homosexual radicals control the content and the brainwashing into their godless abyss where nothing matters but their pleasure above what is good for the future of society.

The Founders understood the slippery slope and they understood that morality in a society was the glue that would make it work. Moral homosexual is an oxymoron unless they refuse to practice in the nihilistic acts. You turning words and meanings upside down or “rationalizing” the behaviors does not change the fact that it goes agaisnt Natural Law and God’s Law. That is the Foundation of the USA—or used to be....the cultural Marxists are working on eliminating God from our Founding Documents and being our master. Disgusting philosophy that has killed millions and millions of people. Watch out, because you are promoting the most vile philosophy in the history of man.


98 posted on 02/12/2011 12:19:13 PM PST by savagesusie
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