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Actually, you did say otherwise. Here's what you said:

In the case of Britain, Obama’s Daughters can claim British citizenship, because it decends to the second generation. Obama Sr.’s grandchildren.

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You cannot ever have the possibility of another citizenship AT BIRTH, holdng it throughout life, and be a Natural Born Citizen.

Obama's daughters are the children of two U.S. citizens. You assert that (a) they can claim British citizenship, and (b) that one who has the possibility of another citizenship at birth cannot be a natural born citizen. That can only mean that, according to you, Obama's daughters cannot be natural born citizens of the United States, even though they were born to two U.S. citizen parents, because the laws of another country grant them citizenship in that country at birth.

I don't see how I'm misreading that. Perhaps that isn't what you meant, but that is what you wrote.

I'll reiterate that the idea that the laws of another country concerning who that country claims as citizens has any bearing on who is or is not a natural born citizen of the United States is both silly and contrary to principles of American sovereignty. We determine who our natural born citizens are, not the British.

Obama's daughters CAN apply for British Citizenship and get it. Thats British Citizenship law. They are decedent from a British Citizen within the two generation rule they use. Forgive me for being confusing, I chose my words poorly.

They can apply for British Citizenship. I believe they would have to renounce their American citizenship to do so, I am not certain on this, I have not recently read current British law on the subject, it has been some time as I have been concentrating more on what was valid at the time Obama Jr. was born. There is a process, and those within two generations can apply and expect to get it. Sasha and Malia are the second generation. Their children will not be able to use this descending in order to apply for British Citizenship. No more than I could.

Obama Jr.'s daughters were NOT born British, unless Obama himself formalized his British Citizenship after reaching legal maturity, and there is no indication he did so, BUT he also never renounced any claim to British citizenship. As a matter of fact, he cannot do anything about the condition of his birth. It is what it was. He was at the instant of his birth British and American (assuming he was actually born on Hawaii and can prove it (I don't think he can prove it)). Because of this he cannot be a Natural Born Citizen. Is he an American, by all appearances, yes. Therefore his daughters are Natural Born Citizens of the Untied States, they were not born Dual Citizens as he was.

This is NOT to be confused with being BORN British, they were not. There is a difference.

Obama inherited his father's citizenship as a CONDITION of his birth, just as he inherited his fathers genes. Both are a condition of birth. You are confusing the citizenship issues which are existent at birth with those existent at adulthood. It is ONLY the condition at birth which matters when determining Natural Born Citizenship Status. If a person takes up the nationality other than what he/she was born with, they will lose that status, and it cannot be regained. Naturalized citizen status, yes. Natural Born status can never be regained once lost.

These are our laws.