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Islam on a Collision Course
The American Thinker ^ | February 05, 2011 | Amil Imani

Posted on 02/05/2011 3:31:08 AM PST by Scanian

When he was asked why the vast majority of Egyptians, the heirs to a great pre-Islamic civilization, speak Arabic rather than Coptic, a leading Egyptian historian replied, "Because we had no Ferdowsi." That would be the tenth-century Persian poet and the author of the Shahnameh (Book of Kings) who revived not only the Persian language, but also Persian identity. Ferdowsi is known for his efforts to save the Persian language, and the history, from oblivion. It has been suggested that Ferdowsi is Iran's Homer:

"Twice as long as Homer's Iliad and Odyssey taken together, the Shahnameh blends Iran's ancient myths and legends with accounts of major events in its past. Its 55,000 rhyming couplets chart the history of the Iranian world from its creation to the fall of the Persian Empire in the seventh century."

The cruel, successful subjugation of the Persian people by the Arab invaders whetted the latter's appetite for further conquests. They ventured elsewhere into the civilized world -- to Egypt, Syria, the Levant, Spain, and eventually to the gates of Vienna. Cruelty and terror were their instruments of policy.

Out of all the peoples conquered by the Arab invasion in the seventh century, the Persians are the only one who can boast of a major body of literature in the indigenous language that they were using before the conquest. The Persian language, culture, and traditions have been Iranians' shields against the Muslim hordes and their barbaric Islamic ideology for the past 1,400 years.

In English, this language is historically known as "Persian," though some Persian-speakers migrating to the West continue to use inaccurately and inappropriately the word "Farsi" to identify their language in English. Farsi is encountered in some linguistic literature as a name for the language, used both by Iranians and by foreign authors.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amilimani; arabs; culturalimperialism; egypt; islamofascism; muslimconquest; persia

1 posted on 02/05/2011 3:31:13 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Obama supports the demonstrators in Egypt.

He supports the oppressors in Iran.

Why?


2 posted on 02/05/2011 4:19:18 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Scanian
It's so hard to read this article and think of what could have, should have happened in Iran in 2009. The idiot in the White House blew an historic opportunity to help Iran become a democratic state. Now we have a near-nuclear Iran overtuning nominally friendly Middle Eastern governments.

Elections have consequences. In this case, very dire consequences for the Middle East.

3 posted on 02/05/2011 4:38:10 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Scanian

“While the Egyptian demonstrators are as much against Hosni Mubarak as they are against his tyrannical regime, they don’t mind having sharia law injected into their day-to-day lives. On the contrary, the 2009 Iranian protests were just as much against the Islamic Republic as they were against Shi’a Islam. In fact, much of the protesting was against Islam itself. People have experienced what a primitive and defective system of belief Islam is, and they aim to abandon it for good. In fact, millions of Iranians representing the entire spectrum of society are demanding change from the repressive Islamic theocracy to an open secular democracy.

Young Iranians, particularly the urban educated Iranians, are among the most ardent believers in democracy in the world. Many view America as the country that holds the best hope for spreading and protecting the high ideals of democracy. In a sense, many Iranians feel a closer affinity with a democratic Israel than with all the neighboring Arab Muslim dictatorships. Although Islam was imposed on Iran some 1,400 years ago, Iranians deeply value their own ancient non-Arab identity and have never fully surrendered to the Arab culture. During the bloodletting war initiated by the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein against Iran, all Arab states sided with the “Butcher of Baghdad” against Iran. Israel was the only Middle Eastern country that remained neutral and in fact helped Iran in the struggle. We Iranians don’t forget our friends, and we also remember our enemies.”


4 posted on 02/05/2011 4:40:35 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Scanian
Islam is not a religion.
Islam is a totalitarian ideology of perpetual warfare and conquest masked as a religion.
Islam demands the use of every stratagem from subterfuge to terrorism to impose Sharia on the world.
Moderate muslims are Trojan Horse muslims, the vanguard of violent jihad.
5 posted on 02/05/2011 4:43:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: Scanian
I believe first and foremost that we must free the Iranian people, draw them back into our Western civilization, and declare Islam a defunct ideology that has simply failed in Iran.

Very interesting article. One thing that I rarely see discussed is the fact that Islam is essentially nothing more than an Arab superiority cult, dreamed up by Mohammed to consolidate his victories through violence over his non-Arab neighbors.

Arab "culture" was virtually non-existent. The Arabs were semi-nomadic tribal peoples who even prior to Islam produced no permanent buildings, no art, no learning, and who survived by hanging out along the trading routes and raiding caravans and living off of what others had produced. Little has changed. And when they overran the far more advanced cultures (non-Arabic) of Baghdad and Persia because of the power vacuum left by the fall of the Roman Empire and the divisions between the Eastern and Western Church, their self-exalting tribal religion, thanks to Mohammed, morphed into something that established Arabs as the controllers of God and hence the absolute controllers of all the societies they had conquered.

Interestingly, in some of the advanced cultures they had conquered in the early years of their campaign, such as Christian Spain, Islam weakened and probably would have dissolved after some years of contact between the non-Arab (Baghdadi and Persian, again) Islamic rulers and the local culture...but when this happened, they were again overrun by North African "fundamentalists" calling the first Muslim leaders "heretical" and intent on installing a now much more developed sharia and reimposing Arab domination.

It's curious that Obama is such a supporter of this Arab superiority cult, although maybe not, since he himself is evidently part Arab through his Kenyan (Muslim African) family.

6 posted on 02/05/2011 4:44:29 AM PST by livius
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To: Travis McGee

7 posted on 02/05/2011 5:14:04 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: samtheman
Obama supports the demonstrators in Egypt.

He supports the oppressors in Iran.

Why?

It should be obvious to you. Obama is a plant, his (THEIR) goal is to cause as much damage to the country as he can before

1 he either succeeds in his(their) plan and gains control

2 Enough people wake up and we hang him for treason after we take our country back

either way the Anti-American supporters win because by the time Americans get it, our country will be in debt so deep and social chaos so rampent that we will be a shell of the former great country we had.

Wake up before it's too late

8 posted on 02/05/2011 5:15:54 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: samtheman

Because the sides he supports present the maximum danger for the US and Israel.


9 posted on 02/05/2011 5:23:24 AM PST by Scanian
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To: jimbo123

That map will include most of Europe in our lifetimes.


10 posted on 02/05/2011 5:25:15 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

He’s working out a very simple plan. It takes very little brainpower—just a compliant press. All he wants to do is chose whatever course of action hurts America’s economy and world standing the most.

Being a political wrecking ball is not a matter of genius. It is just a matter of giving free rein to destructive impulses and watching the results. And when called on any of it, blame somebody else, preferably Bush.


11 posted on 02/05/2011 5:27:20 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Travis McGee

They are tariqa (lying, cheating, subterfuge, etc.) specialists.

Something Hussein seemed to have learned very well from them.


12 posted on 02/05/2011 5:31:21 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Truly. “Moderate” muslims are Trojan Horse muslims. This has been true throughout history.


13 posted on 02/05/2011 5:36:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: politicianslie

It is obvious to me. My question was rhetorical and I purposely left off the /s tag.


14 posted on 02/05/2011 5:44:59 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Obama supports the demonstrators in Egypt.

He supports the oppressors in Iran.

Why?

Typically liberal moral preening. One of the cornerstones of the liberal faith is moral superiority. They feel they must constantly demonstrate it by going against common sense, "the man", or any other semblance of societal norm.

In Iran, supporting the protestors 1) Was in U.S. interest 2) Would have made Iran a better place 3) Removed a U.S. enemy. As a result, Obama demonstrated his moral superiority by acting on some higher moral principle the rest of us dolts are too stupid to understand. Of course, he can't define it but that changes his fantasy none the less.

Now the exact reverse situation is happening in Egypt. Violent thugs are attempting to turn Egypt into an oppressive terror state. Any idiot can see that this is A Very Bad Thing, but Obama's insecurity will never let him operate on the same principles as us lesser beings.

This is what makes these people reflexively anti-American. They need to feel morally superior to their own country. They satisfy this need by constantly wagging their finger at their own nation and telling us "No!" like a parent to an errant child. That is there answer no matter the question, from gun control to economics to foreign policy.

15 posted on 02/05/2011 5:47:54 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Travis McGee

The Israelis have always tried to convince Americans of that.

I remember an Israeli official being lectured in an interview years ago about “peace-loving” Arabs. “Those are merely CLEVER Arabs,” replied the Israeli. “They all want to drive us into the Mediterranean.”


16 posted on 02/05/2011 5:51:45 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Because the sides he supports present the maximum danger for the US and Israel.
And what blows my mind is that there are NO democrats and so far NO republicans willing to stand up and say this?

Not really say it the way you just said it. Which is absolutely true.

Who in congress is brave enough to stand up and say the truth? To ask the question? "Why do Egyptian protesters deserve our support and not Iranian protesters?"

Who in congress is publicly and vigorously asking this question?

I am surprised at BOTH parties because I believe that even in the democrat party there are those who want our country to survive.

Obama obviously doesn't want our country to survive. Why is no one in congress questioning his motives on this?

17 posted on 02/05/2011 5:58:36 AM PST by samtheman
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To: hopespringseternal

Good answer.


18 posted on 02/05/2011 6:05:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Maybe I’m willing to say it because I belong to NEITHER party!

Those guys all get their talking points and they include very little that can in anyway be termed “controversial.”


19 posted on 02/05/2011 6:32:04 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I like Amil Imani’s writings. There are, however, other points to consider.

Pre-Islamic antiquities & culture, Primarily, has a decorative value, much more so in “Arab” countries (which now includes Egypt & Tunisia) than in today’s Iran. Nonetheless it has more of a decorative value in all moslem countries.

They tend to use it to highlight their past achievements to foreigners - no doubt, pre-Islam, they were once very civilised & advanced nations. Though, NOW, their pre-Islamic history has little PRACTICAL meaning, application, or future implications (again, I think, more so in “Arab” countries than in Iran).

Islam, OTOH, has been the hard reality in the ME in general & for the last 14 centuries, without any permanent success in modifying or reforming it. ‘Moderate Islam’ has always been a foreign concept in the ME. And, prior to 9/11, ‘moderate Islam’, to my knowledge, was unheard of in the West. I’d say the term ‘Moderate Islam’ was invented in the West.

Hopefully, they’ll put more emphasis on ridding themselves of Islamic ideology (I won’t hold my breath), which has been a great contributor to both their poverty & ‘backwardness’ than live in their bygone pre-Islamic history & greatness.


20 posted on 02/06/2011 6:52:29 PM PST by odds
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