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To: Faith
It’s a battle worth fighting. Given who has been identified as B.O.’s father, the current White House occupant cannot be a NBC and is therefore ineligible to hold the office.

That is simply not true. The law at the time was that you could be a citizen by birth with one parent being a non-citizen (BHO, Sr.) IF the parent who was a citizen (momma) had been a resident for at least 5 years after attaining the age of 16 (which manifestly wasn't true, since she wasn't yet 21 when BHO, Jr. was born) OR even if the citizen parent wasn't so qualified, if the child was born in the US. Since it is clear beyond any doubt that the father wasn't a citizen and also that his mother wasn't yet 21, the sole issue right now in determining if he was a NBC is the place of his birth.

Of course, there has been speculation raised elsewhere that he was born in Hawaii, based on what the Hawaii governor/Obama lapdog has said, but that because of the fact that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetero he lost his US citizenship, and there is simply no record whatsoever of him ever applying to get the citizenship back. Further, he was also known as Barry Soetero, yet his bar application for IL asks if the applicant was ever known by a different name and his reply was "no." This is fraud, and there's also possible fraud regarding the issue of college financial aid (i.e. did he apply for scholarships that were only open to foreign students? If so, then he was a foreigner who never applied to get his citizenship back. If he wasn't actually a foreigner and got the grants anyway, then he committed a felony and is ineligible to be President).

Any way you look at this guy, there is some deep, dark secret that he doesn't want revealed - else why spend so much money protecting his birth, school and medical records. At this point, even if he came up with documents showing that he's 100% legit, the question will arise, "So, why did you hide things for so long? Why were you playing Machiavellian games with the American public?" The burden is on him at this point.

25 posted on 02/04/2011 1:21:44 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Ancesthntr

A “natural born” citizen is any person born of US citizen parents in the continental U.S., including Alaska, and Hawaii. His father was never a U.S. citizen. Regardless of where he was born, Obama cannot be a natural born citizen unless he has lied about his parentage AND he in fact was born in the U.S.. B.O. is not eligible.


55 posted on 02/04/2011 4:29:22 PM PST by Faith
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To: Ancesthntr

Thank you for the well informed post. Geez, how many times do we have to clear the misconceptions?!


60 posted on 02/04/2011 7:22:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Ancesthntr
The law at the time was that you could be a citizen by birth with one parent being a non-citizen (BHO, Sr.) IF the parent who was a citizen (momma) had been a resident for at least 5 years after attaining the age of 16 (which manifestly wasn't true, since she wasn't yet 21 when BHO, Jr. was born) OR even if the citizen parent wasn't so qualified, if the child was born in the US. Since it is clear beyond any doubt that the father wasn't a citizen and also that his mother wasn't yet 21, the sole issue right now in determining if he was a NBC is the place of his birth

You are getting two things mixed up. What you are talking about above is what it takes to be ANY citizen of the United States. For Barack Obama to have been born a citizen at all, he would need one parent to be a citizen and a resident of the USA for 5 years after the age of 16.

If those were not met and he were not born in the USA, he would not even be a citizen at birth. He would have had to naturalize at some point.

But the previous poster was trying to say that the definition of Natural Born Citizen is even trickier. We don't know if perhaps BOTH his parents needed to be citizens at his birth, or if he had to have been born with no allegiance to another land. The Constitution is not completely clear on what defines a Natural Born Citizen.

65 posted on 02/04/2011 10:27:15 PM PST by Yaelle
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