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The concept that the government could or should only “allow” certain people to have guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective.

It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.

The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.

1 posted on 02/03/2011 4:31:47 AM PST by marktwain
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The democrat rino boomburg still making noise that American citizens have a right to keep and bear arms by the Constitution? He works for the socialist communist democrats and he is a despicable left wing new yark liberal and should clean up the murder and thieving and lying and slander and taxes and food regulations and be a real mayor and not a left wing demagogue of the worst sort.
Comrade Bloomburg is your typical evil and wicked left wing communist.
2 posted on 02/03/2011 4:38:59 AM PST by kindred (Come Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies.)
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This outrageous conduct is the reason Arizona needs to pass a law making it a state felony for any out of state enforcement official to enter the state to conduct any enforcement activity without the express permission of the local sheriff and the state attorney general.
3 posted on 02/03/2011 4:44:50 AM PST by iontheball
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Mayor Bloomberg's administration hired private investigators to illegally purchase guns at a Phoenix gun show last week.

So why isn't he in jail this week? They broke the law, the Mayor was the instigator behind it. I don't care what their motives were, the road to Hades is paved with... well, you get the point.

"We were only doing it to prove a point." is no excuse. Why not accept other noble motives? "I needed to protect my brother from ..." etc. etc.

Teach these {expletive} liberals that the law applies to everyone - including their elitist backsides.

4 posted on 02/03/2011 4:48:08 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Bloomie can't keep his own house in order. A fact confirmed by his freak-like attempts to distract the masses from his explosive crime rates, confiscatory tax policies and out of control spending.

We need not pay any more attention to him than it takes to scrape him off our shoes.

5 posted on 02/03/2011 4:52:56 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I bet there are more illegal gun sales within New York City in one day then in the whole state of Arizona.
6 posted on 02/03/2011 4:54:27 AM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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an aide to the Mayor tells City Room that 90 percent of the guns recovered in crimes in New York City come from out of state,

The clear message here is: gun control only keeps guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

7 posted on 02/03/2011 5:01:55 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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At least they weren’t selling salt at the Gun Show.


8 posted on 02/03/2011 5:03:27 AM PST by windsorknot
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He broke the law, matter of fact he did so conspiratorily. Indict, prosecute and incarcerate Bloomberg and whoever else was involved. Do your duty LEOs and DAs, get with it.


10 posted on 02/03/2011 5:09:34 AM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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...—a loophole in federal gun laws allowed them to buy the guns without a background check...

Probably from private sellers.

...but two gun vendors illegally sold guns to "buyers" who confessed that they probably wouldn't pass a background check.

Again, probably private sellers who at least asked the "buyers" a question or two.

I wonder how much this PR stunt cost the taxpayers of NY State?

12 posted on 02/03/2011 5:16:12 AM PST by CPOSharky (Posted with 100% recycled electrons.)
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Whenever a lefty begins their ‘emotionally appeal’ for sensible ‘gun control’, I quietly remind them that I,along with many others, can easily end their life with my bare hands.

I then ask them if there should be sensible ‘hand control’ laws???

If someone wants to end your life, they do not need a gun to do it.


13 posted on 02/03/2011 5:19:36 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Would love to hear someday that one of Bloomers straw buyers got caught, bodyslammed to the ground, civil rights firmly violated, cuffed, and stuffed.
14 posted on 02/03/2011 5:19:42 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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The solution is to go to NYC and gather dirt and publish it in return.

I would speculate that in 5 days in NYC, buyers with money could easily purchase a most damning collection. Then to put it on YouTube for the world to see.

Obviously, everything that was collected would be encouraged by Bloomberg.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 5:38:45 AM PST by Concho (-)
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I say Governor Brewer should return the favor and send a team of investigators to have a look at the connections between "hizzoner" and radical islam.


18 posted on 02/03/2011 5:58:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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It’s all about banning private sales between two citizens, nothing more.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 6:02:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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If memory serves, didn’t the BATF [wonder of wonders] ream Bloomturd out the last time he pulled this crap?


20 posted on 02/03/2011 6:25:52 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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If it is a loophole, then it is not illegal. People use the word loophole constantly (and incorrectly) to define exemptions written into a law.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 6:38:36 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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IMHO, if I were a gun show operator, I wouldn’t let private individuals set up tables to sell their private guns. These people give the whole gun show industry a bad name.

Also, it is my opinion that many of these individuals are actually unlicensed gun dealers breaking existing law. I have seen the same people year after year selling (and trading) their “personal” guns at my local gun show. At some point, you stop being just an individual selling his personal guns and become a gun dealer.

An individual has the absolute right to sell his private property, but it doesn’t have to happen at a gun show.

Just my 2 cents


23 posted on 02/03/2011 6:45:14 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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I’ll admit I didn’t read the entire article. But did these undercovers buy from a private seller or a gun dealer?

If they bought from a private seller at the gun show, just like on the street or at a friends house, you are not required to do background checks on private sells. What’s the big deal here.

Bunch of jackwagons.


24 posted on 02/03/2011 6:56:49 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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Technically, the title is too long. It should be:

“Arizona Contemptuous of Bloomberg”


27 posted on 02/03/2011 7:23:01 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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33 posted on 02/04/2011 3:07:52 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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