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Boehner blowing GOP's biggest opportunity?
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| February 02, 2011
Posted on 02/02/2011 11:35:33 PM PST by speciallybland
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To: speciallybland
And without even a budget??? What a joke!
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posted on
02/03/2011 12:24:38 AM PST
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: speciallybland
The key is to stop the spending in this budget. THEN you can bring the debt ceiling down. Without that the raising of the ceiling is moot and we eventually collapse. I see no evidence of a lack of budget cutters in the GOP. Let’s let them do it.
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posted on
02/03/2011 12:26:17 AM PST
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: Lazlo in PA
The market always - real estate is a good example - get back on its feet. Always! Speculators are happy right now and I don't think that cutting unions, entitlements, food stamps, UN, obamacare defund and millions of other examples which can be done overnight - or at least give it a try - will move the market at all. These are internal examples that would only affect the "entitled" and the billions we keep on spending on organizations who are not helping us anyway - then make a budget - a solid and strict budget for the next year - and then start giving authorization to drill everywhere you can - Defund the dept of education and give it back to the states - install a tax system which don't need the billions of the IRS - close hundreds of govt offices totally useless but which cost billions to maintain only to bug the citizens - defund plainparenthood ...and on and on
I am so sure that when Sarah will be up there that's exactly what she will do. Of course obama would veto all that but at least the gop would have try...
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posted on
02/03/2011 12:33:02 AM PST
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: speciallybland
I just sent Boehner an email suggesting that if he raises the debt ceiling it constitutes lying to his voters in fighting for fiscal responsibility.
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posted on
02/03/2011 12:33:15 AM PST
by
Cobra64
To: American Dream 246
The only "joke" is someone who thinks there is going to be real spending cuts of any significant size with the weak-kneed Republicans caving at the mere talking point of "balancing the budget on the backs of the elderly and school children" and, of course, the Democrat-controlled Senate.
At best we'll see a spending increase below the rate of inflation...and that will be called a "cut" too.
To: speciallybland
Fully agree. So sad the republicans are so lame. They have such a huge chance right now. I was very disappointed today when I read that Bachmann talked about cutting the veterans pensions fund...what??? Can’t she find something else to cut? I am sad because I used to like her a lot but that really pissed me off. Hundreds and hundreds of gov offices can be shut down - touching to the the pension of our heroes should really be the last resort - even should never happen! Like cutting cops and firefighter...incredible. The most needed heroes around, that’s all they can come up with? CUT ALL THE MUSLIMS ORGANIZATIONS GRANTS before you dare touching at our heroes pension or jobs!
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posted on
02/03/2011 12:50:44 AM PST
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: speciallybland
They should raise it long enough to last one month with a huge concession attached like the the repeal of Obama care. Then they should repeat again on a monthly basis. Not give two freaking more years!
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posted on
02/03/2011 1:13:34 AM PST
by
MNDude
To: Lazlo in PA
So enlighten me how we, as a country, not raise the debt ceiling right now? Apparently you believe there will be no ramifications in doing this. Am I correct?
The ramifications of not raising the debt ceiling now, combined with massive cuts in the size of the Federal Government bureaucracy will be minor compared to what happens in 10 years if you raise the debt ceiling now, and continuing with business as usual. The house should de-fund the Department of Education. Starve it to death if you can't get an outright repeal of its existence. Eliminate the department of homeland security and restore its legitimate functions to the CIA, FBI, and INS. Eliminate the Department of Energy, and HHS. Cut off all foreign aid. This is an opportunity for the GOP to demonstrate that they are not dem-lite.
To: Lazlo in PA
There simply isn’t any connection between refusing to raise the debt limit and defaulting on debt repayment. This threat is a ploy by the administration to avoid hard choices.
There IS a direct link between refusing to prioritize expenditures and debt default. The only way that the US will default on its debt is if it CHOOSES to. Or, we could choose to cut spending somewhere.
If we are simply going to raise the debt ceiling every time we near it, then it is no ceiling at all, and we’d be better off honestly admitting it and repealing it entirely. Otherwise we simply and cynically maintain a total fiction.
To: goldstategop
IMO Boehners only job is to be a 13 inch diameter turd in a 1 inch diameter socialist sewer pipe of legislation.....
How hard can that be ?
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posted on
02/03/2011 2:53:04 AM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
To: speciallybland
Rhetorical question.
Did you NOT expect him to blow it?
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posted on
02/03/2011 3:33:22 AM PST
by
NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
To: goldstategop
If were going to raise the debt limit, attach the repeal of Obamacare and reducing spending to it.Why not go for broke? Attach to it the repeal of every piece of welfare, education, social spending along with 0bamacare. Might as well load up the deal with as many negotiating points on our side as possible to ensure that at least some make it through.
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posted on
02/03/2011 3:38:51 AM PST
by
pnh102
(Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
To: Alter Kaker
Why delay the inevitable... the sooner we start chemo and radiation treatments... the sooner we heal... you are wrong... the world economy is going to collapse and it will be worse if we postpone it with more debt.
LLS
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posted on
02/03/2011 4:47:23 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(WOLVERINES!!!)
To: Lazlo in PA
It is nothing more than Kabuki Theater... and it will not stand. They have done nothing of substance and they have lost every battle that they have engaged in... repeal is dead in the Senate... et tu... we now rely on the Courts and the Constitution. The republicans are nothing more than the same old same old with a better PR machine. We are still being lied to. It takes more than "words... just words".
LLS
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posted on
02/03/2011 4:51:25 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(WOLVERINES!!!)
To: LibLieSlayer
-——It is nothing more than Kabuki Theater.———
What is Kabuki theater. How is this Japanese theater different?
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posted on
02/03/2011 4:54:25 AM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
To: speciallybland
Those responsible for spending are just like the welfare Moms who know that having a baby gives them more security. They’ve run up the debt and now tell us how powerless they are to stop continuing the binge.
The current pattern of spending, borrowing, raising the limit and repeating as necessary cannot continue. Period. It’s going to end in a crash.
Refusal to raise the debt limit will also end in a crash. So what’s the difference? IMHO, I’d prefer to have a crash that we caused and knew was coming rather than to wake up one morning to global financial crisis and panic. It’s like knowing the plane you’re flying is running out of fuel and you know you will have put it someplace. Far better to fly into the landing while you have some control than just fly along until the engine quits and you have no longer have a say in where and how you land.
Having said all this, let me predict what will happen. They will continue to kick the ball down the road until the crash happens. Spending will not be cut enough to ease or eliminate the deficit, and the debt ceiling will be raised again and again. There will be much talk and bluster, but when it’s all said and done they will revert to their old habits. They are addicted and that’s the nature of addicts.
It’s that bad dream again. Everything in slow motion with an outcome you know but can’t change.
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posted on
02/03/2011 5:43:10 AM PST
by
jwparkerjr
(I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
To: bert
They pretend to be what they are not... they wear over the top faces that do not belong to them... they mimic actions not of their own... it is all made up. republican leadership are dims... they pretend to be conservatives but everything that they do is an orchestrated play for liberalism... colorful and weird but simply fantasy. mccain is on abc selling us out to islam this morning... there you have an example... he also agreed to work with obama on Amnesty... like I said... they are nothing but dims wearing outfits and masks to hide who and what they truly are... but only when raising money or campaigning... when governing... they revert to their natural progressive state.
LLS
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posted on
02/03/2011 5:46:13 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(WOLVERINES!!!)
To: LibLieSlayer
Boehner is no different than Gingrich, Lott or Frist. They talk big to get elected, then just melt back in to their chairs and disappear. And nothing changes when the pressure is on. They cave in like sand castles in a Hurricane! I no longer believe a word they say. They pretty much say one thing and do another every time! But most of all, they never stand tall and fight.
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posted on
02/03/2011 6:02:12 AM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
To: speciallybland
Boehner is the one who told us that the stimulus was a “crap sandwich we’re gonna have to eat.”
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posted on
02/03/2011 6:15:26 AM PST
by
ViLaLuz
(2 Chronicles 7:14)
To: goldstategop
Raising the debt ceiling does not give anyone Carte Blanche to spend anything in the future. It allows the government to pay for the spending that has already occured. Raising the ceiling without extracting concessions from the Dems would be irresponsible, but it makes a good lever the Pubs can use to enact real spending curbs. Not raising it would be political suicide.
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posted on
02/03/2011 6:23:33 AM PST
by
csmusaret
(Q: How do they say incompetent failure in Kenya? A: Barack Obama)
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