Bachmann: There's Tea Party 'Buzz' In Hawaii

Honolulu Civil Beat ^ | 2/2/11 | Chad Blair

[pissant]

The queen of the Tea Party knows how to deliver a stump speech, and the more than 200 people who turned out to hear Michelle Bachmann in person Wednesday at the Ala Moana Hotel were not disappointed.

Organized by the free-market "think tank" Grassroot Institute of Hawaii and attracting a good many local Republicans, Bachmann charged her supporters to rise up and fight for the foundations of the nation: inalienable rights of life and liberty that can't be touched by the government.

"The Tea Party movement as I define it is a rejection of the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda," she said. "You are the Tea Party ... It's a broad swath of America — it's huge! It's in every region not just north and south but every part of the United States."

[pissant]

LOL. She's a purdy one...

[MortMan]

I would suggest that Bachmann and Palin line up against Demint and the rest of the pack. Those three have conservative cred to me. Let the contest START from that point.

Pissant - You continually downplay (and insult, in my mind) Palin, to the exclusion of logic at times when you talk about her being “Quayled”, which is slang for “unfairly ridiculed”.

WVKayaker - You seem to be bent on subjugating Bachmann to Palin, which isn’t really right when neither has declared candidacy, and neither have started their campaign.

I personally do not see Bachmann as ready for an executive campaign, but it is up to her to prove me wrong. But can we, as people who are interested in promoting conservative politics, allow them to vie for the prize without denigrating them and lending credence to their liberal democrat and media (but I repeat myself) detractors?

[miliantnutcase]

Please tell me you’re a bit from DU...

[TigersEye]

Stunning IMO and that goes for her head and heart too.

[WVKayaker]

With your screen name, you are the more likely DU plant, troll! Thanks for playing.

Elect Sarah Palin for President 2012

Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016

[pissant]

Since this was asked in sincerity I will attempt to answer in kind.

There are several reasons why I do not consider Palin to be my kind of conservative. That is first and foremost, and I have been very up front on laying out those reasons. For a short while, after her good speech at the GOP convention and watching her campaign for McCain/Palin, was impressed. Then came her interview with Univision, where she echoed McCain’s ‘pathway to citizenship crapola amnesty plan.

I no longer could support her. They lost to the boy marxist, and I was happy to ignore her or wish her well as Alaska’s gubner.

Then a group here started pushing her for president. No biggie. That’s part of what makes FR great. But I found these folks here trying to tell me her amnesty wasn’t amnesty and that “Only Sarah” could take out Obama, to the obvious exclusion of other real conservatives, then I decided to dig a bit deeper. Not only pro-amnesty, but pro-Title IX, pro carbon caps, believes global warming “is real and we have to do something about it”, pro-TARP (even scolding conservatives for opposing it in her book), pro-LOST, and now, it appears, pro DADT repeal.

I just don’t support her. She is in the same camp with the rest of them to me. Conservative on some things with a liberal streak a mile wide.

[pissant]

You have good taste, my friend

[WVKayaker]

I definitely think Sarah Palin is better qualified, and better positioned for the run. She will come out victorious. The stars are aligned, and the country is aware. Michele can do more where she is seated.

Elect Sarah Palin for President 2012

Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016

[pissant]

Well, you could do alot worse. At least you didn’t say Mitt & Rudy.

[MortMan]

On some of the issues you site, I agree. The Title IX support is unseemly, in my eyes.

For many of the rest of the issues, I have not yet seen independent stands taken by her. By that, I mean she hasn’t addressed how President (or “Queen”) Palin would address some of the issues (that I have seen).

In all honesty, I find myself hoping I can fully support Palin in a Presidential quest. To do that, I believe she has significant milestones to achieve - the first many of which are her independent declarations of policy intent. She is still tainted with her need to support McCain in the last elections. In 2008, she had to parrot his line. In 2010, she had to support his reelection in a political payback.

She is one candidate who interests me for 2012.

I would ask mostly that we try to allow the campaign to be waged between the candidates based on their campaigns, which includes their records. Palin appears to be appropriately conservative to me (pending contradiction that I see), as do Bachmann and Demint.

In the end, I believe they need to be allowed to define themselves before we pass judgment. In my mind, Palin has not had that chance, yet.

Your use of the “Quayled” descriptor does not help in that respect, either. “Quayled” is a term that describes when the political opponent defines the candidate, and is the exact opposite of what we need to consider.

I know I have not likely swayed your opinion, pissant. But please consider that the arguments you are presenting to the rest of us are emotional, and therefore ineffective. You argue that the media has destroyed her, yet she endures as a media target because she is not destroyed.

Sorry if I have not made sense here - LOL.

[WVKayaker]

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called studies supporting global climate change a “bunch of snake oil science” Monday during a rare appearance in California, a state that has been at the forefront of environmental regulations. ... -http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/09/politics/main6189211.shtml

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... Many folks are trying to convince me that Sarah Palin, as conspiracy nut Alex Jones’ proclaims, is a fake and pro-amnesty for illegals. The above information is from a site that claims to articulate where Sarah Palin stands on the issues. In what is above, where does it say she is pro-amnesty?

Like Palin, I support a path to citizenship for those that wish to immigrate legally to this country. Remember, my wife is an immigrant that came here legally as a child with her parents, and naturalized in 2007. But, as does my wife and Palin, I do not support amnesty for those who are here illegally. If they are willing to break the law to come here, who knows what other laws they are willing to break. ... -http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2010/03/sarah-palin-on-immigration-and-amnesty.html

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... I am deeply concerned about President Obama’s cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.

American prosperity has always been driven by the steady supply of abundant, affordable energy. Particularly in Alaska, we understand the inherent link between energy and prosperity, energy and opportunity, and energy and security. Consequently, many of us in this huge, energy-rich state recognize that the president’s cap-and-trade energy tax would adversely affect every aspect of the U.S. economy. ... -http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852.html

[MortMan]

I applaud your enthusiasm.

But I also implore you to not pit these two women against each other in an adversarial race until they choose to enter that race.

A lot of what I see right now is an attempt to fracture the conservative movement. I would hate for Bachmann and Palin to both become victims of that liberal attempt to divide.

[onyx]

You waste your time talking to a gnat who's here to disrupt and try to anger and demoralize. He wants to rip the forum apart with stupid arguments while the rest of us are here to support all potential conservative candidates and we can all have our favorites without tearing down the others.

Once the announcements are made, each candidate can make his or her own case.

“A nightstick the size of a telephone pole and the muscle to wield it effortlessly.”

[pissant]

A) Easy to say AFTER ClimateGate was exposed. Just like Newt the chump and Romney the Flipper. Before that it was “it’s real and we have to do something about it”. Despite conservatives from Rush, to Inhofe, to Hunter, to Tancredo, to Ingraham, to Savage, to Bachmann all calling it BS for years, Palin, just like Newt and Flipper, bought the algorian fairy tale. BTW, let me know when she gets beyond the phony data from ClimateGate and tells audiences the entire enterprise is baloney.

b) Utter BS. I don’t care what some idiots opinion is, I listen to PALIN’s words.

c) Of course she doesn’t like Obama’s version of Cap and Trade. She said so during her campaign, AS DID MCCCAIN. However, when Gwen Ifill, the debate moderator asked her if she supported capping CO2, her answer was, and I quote, “I do, I do”

take your weak tea home, bro.

[WVKayaker]

I applaud your enthusiasm. I am dedicated to elect SArah amd am joined by a few million others. I think that any comparison leaves Michele in the dust. She does not have enough background to compete, though she has charisma. If that was all it takes, Sarah would be long gone. Yet, she continues to make the news DAILY. If she farts, they cover it...

It is pissy that is trying to divide...

[WVKayaker]

Thanks for playing...

Elect Sarah Palin for President 2012

Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016

[MortMan]

Let me be a little clearer.

I formed my opinion of Title IX based on the judicial rulings in the state where I became aware - NY. That colors my judgment. Therefore, when I say Title IX is a problem to me, I am basing it on the legal judgment in force where I grew up.

Sarah Palin’s view of that law will, similarly, be colored by the views in force as she became politically aware, as well as those which were in force when she was in political power.

Arguing over pissant’s motivations is bullcrap. That’s liberal castrati speak for “we can’t argue your logic, so we’ll attack the messenger”.

Neither you nor pissant are likely to sway the other. Therefore, you are arguing to inform other people that view these threads. Attacking his motivation is a very, very weak argument. Your use of Palin’s words is a much more powerful argument. Use it.

Lastly, my request of you and pissant is to allow the potential candidates to define whether they are allies or foes, politically. Unless your name is Sarah Palin, or you are a paid spokesman for her, you do not have the right toi speak for her. Just the same as pissant doesn’t speak for Michelle Bachmann.

Let’s TRY to start this political season promoting the POSITITIONS we support, and then solidify behind the politicians that agree with those positions, rather than letting the dems and media (what’s the difference) split us before we start by sowing discord.

[WVKayaker]

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[MortMan]

And it is you who is allowing him to succeed in the minds of some readers of these threads. Diplomacy can coexist with conservative logic, and is a much more persuasive mix than conservatism alone.