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To: Sub-Driver

If McConnell does manage to keep all 47 Republicans together and get this to a vote, it will pass.

Manchin, McCaskill, Stabenow and Webb almost certainly will have to vote for repeal if they want even a shot at another term. Especially Manchin. And once it becomes clear that it will pass, look for even more democrats to try to curry favor with their constituents and pile on.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 1:27:51 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: LostInBayport
Manchin, McCaskill, Stabenow and Webb almost certainly will have to vote for repeal if they want even a shot at another term. Especially Manchin. And once it becomes clear that it will pass, look for even more democrats to try to curry favor with their constituents and pile on.

Ben Nelson has indicated support for at least a partial appeal as well. Maybe the bribe he secured for Nebraska isn't looking like all that sweet a deal after all.
59 posted on 01/31/2011 2:27:33 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: LostInBayport
I wouldn't be surprised since they know Obama has a veto pen. If this passes the Senate and Obama vetoes it, he is pretty much a goner in 2012, IMO. Will the Senate protect Barry after seeing what happened in 200 election?
72 posted on 01/31/2011 3:16:23 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: LostInBayport
I wouldn't be surprised since they know Obama has a veto pen. If this passes the Senate and Obama vetoes it, he is pretty much a goner in 2012, IMO. Will the Senate protect Barry after seeing what happened in 200 election?
73 posted on 01/31/2011 3:16:30 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: LostInBayport
I wouldn't be surprised since they know Obama has a veto pen. If this passes the Senate and Obama vetoes it, he is pretty much a goner in 2012, IMO. Will the Senate protect Barry after seeing what happened in 200 election?
74 posted on 01/31/2011 3:16:38 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: LostInBayport
If McConnell does manage to keep all 47 Republicans together and get this to a vote, it will pass. Manchin, McCaskill, Stabenow and Webb almost certainly will have to vote for repeal if they want even a shot at another term. Especially Manchin.

McConnell did a masterful job keeping his entire caucus of then 40 GOP senators together against BOcare in Christmas 2009 -- notwithstanding tremendous pressure on Collins, Snowe, Voinovich and others to cave -- not just from the RATS but from the MSM as well.

Continuing his masterful leadership on this issue, along with Senator DeMint, today we learn that all 47 Republican senators are on board for full repeal.

What has McConnell mostly gotten from too many conservative corners? Too often, ridicule and a failure to recognize this continued achievement.

Because McConnell exercised an important parlimentarian move after the House passed its repeal bill last week, the Senate MUST take up the full repeal bill at a time of the GOP's choosing. Reid cannot protect his members from a recorded vote on this issue.

With the vulnerability of both Senator Nelsons + Manchin + Pryor as a real possibility + Webb and others, it is likely that the full repeal will pass the Senate and Obama will have to veto the repeal. This is fine. Get them on the record -- both chambers -- on both the repeal bill and the override vote. Sets up 2012 nicely. Neither Stabenow or McCaskill would ever dare to vote for repeal given union backing -- but it gives their GOP opponent a great issue. Tester of Montana is another real possibility.

I would like to also point out that Mike Castle would have been a 48th vote for repeal. Party labels matter in critical circumstances, and I wish more people would understand this. Besides deficit reduction -- of which this is part -- there is no more urgent domestic danger facing this nation.

77 posted on 01/31/2011 3:27:43 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: LostInBayport

The Republicans should pounce on the Unconstitutionality in the Senate by the 2 Fed Judges who have been brought by 26 States in total.

Press for the vote now. Need 12 Dems and probably Joe Lieberman to beat cloture.


115 posted on 01/31/2011 10:50:05 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: LostInBayport

A Democrat will raise a point of order declaring that repeal will increase the deficit, thereby requiring 60 votes to pass.


124 posted on 02/01/2011 2:07:38 PM PST by WNCer2010
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