State lawmakers want Obama’s birth records (Arizona's HB2544 & Burges takes 2nd try at birther bill)

State lawmakers want Obama’s birth records
By Howard Fischer
Capitol Media Services
Sat, 01/29/2011 - 00:34

PHOENIX — More than three dozen Republican legislators want a plan to require Barack Obama to produce an original birth certificate for Arizona officials if he intends to seek re-election.

HB 2544 would forbid the secretary of state from putting a presidential candidate’s name on the ballot unless certain documents are first provided. These include a sworn statements outlining where the candidate has lived for the last 14 years, that the candidate does not hold dual citizenship and that the person’s allegiance “is solely to the United States of America.”

But what worries Ken Bennett, the current secretary of state, is that he also would have to be furnished “an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance.” Without that, he said, the measure would bar him from including the candidate’s name on the ballot.

“I don’t know that’s on MY birth certificate, for goodness sakes” said Bennett, who was born in Tucson.

Potentially more problematic, he said, is that each state has its own system of recording births. And Bennett, who is a Republican like all of the measure’s 41 sponsors, is not sure that its even possible to get an “original” birth certificate.

For example, he said, people seeking birth certificates from many states, often for passports or other documentation, are instead furnished with a “certificate of live birth.” That usually takes the form of a state official certifying, under oath, that there are documents on file proving a specific person was born on a specified date.

That’s not all, Bennett said, pointing to the requirement for the birth certificate to have the names of the attending physician and the signatures of witnesses.

“If you were delivered at home with a midwife, does that mean you are no longer qualified to be the president of the United States?” he asked. “If there aren’t any signatures of witnesses in attendance, you’re no longer qualified?”

“Is that a standard term of art that means the same thing in all 50 states?” Bennett continued. “And is it even available in all 50 states?”

Officially speaking, the legislation crafted by Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, does not mention Obama. And Burges, who first sponsored a slightly different version of the measure last year, said it’s not necessarily about Obama, though she admitted she doubts he was born in Hawaii as he claims, or that he can show he is a U.S. citizen.

“With what’s happening throughout the world, we need to make sure that our candidates are certifiable,” she told Capitol Media Services when she introduced the first measure.

Burges managed to get the measure through the House last year. The bill died in the Senate. That requirement for the “long form original,” appears designed with Obama in mind.

Officials in Hawaii released a short-form version of the birth certificate when the issue first arose before the 2008 election. When that failed to satisfy critics, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the state’s health director, issued a statement saying he has “seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.”

Bennett seems satisfied. “I think he was born in Hawaii,” he said. “I personally believe he is a U.S. citizen.”

Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, told KPNX this week he believes Obama — and all presidential candidates — should provide proof of their citizenship. Asked specifically if he believes Obama is a citizen, Seel responded, “I have questions about that.”

Bennett, acknowledging all the controversy, said he is sympathetic to the goal. “I think we need a legitimate and verifiable process for candidates to demonstrate that they meet the qualifications,” he said.

“In the case of the president’s office … the best place is at the federal level so that each state is not doing its own, different thing,” Bennett continued. “But it seems unfortunately obvious that they’ve not sufficiently implemented such a process at the federal level or we wouldn’t be having these questions.”

He added, though, that no process might be enough “in the minds of some people.”

Lingle saw nothing, whatever she said is heresay
.... LOL. And Mike Evans’ statement isn’t?...

Never said it wan’t. Whats your point?

Lingle could have just as well said she asked Curiosity to check Obama’s records and Curiosity said its in the HDOH.

.....The difference is that I’m not in any position to check the records. Dr. Fukino is. I’m also not a public official. Dr. Fukino is. Now I suppose it’s theoretically possible that she lied to the governor, but it’s not very likely. What could she possibly gain from such a lie? And surely it would be exposed rather quickly. Large bureaucracies like the HDOH are notoriously bad at keeping secrets......

So why did you try and attribute the BC remark to Lingle instead of Fukino, it was deceptive and you got called on it.

It proves Lingle knows nothing about the BC other than what was told her.

... Yes, but she has good reason to trust the person who told it to her. On the other hand, I have absolutely no reason to trust some two-bit media whore like Evans....

I trust someone who works for a living and depends on their reputation more than some state employee feeding at the trough.

Evans mispoke and related things Abercrobie’s office said not what Abercrombie said. Thats the retraction, nothing more.
......Can you read? That is NOT what the retraction is about. Here’s what Evans said:
I was on 34 radio stations that morning. That was the only station where I said, instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that....

Yes I can read and it it still supports my point not yours.

Evans did not talk to the hospital,

.... I don’t think Evans talked to anyone...

There you go again “ I think” try using facts instead of your liberal emotional thoughts. FACTS FACTS FACTS.

Abercrombies office did and according to Evans they even had a search warrant.

.... And why should I believe what some two-bit media whore says?....

What proof do you have that Evans is a two bit media whore? Why shouldn’t you believe him? And which part shouldn’t you believe? ROFLMAO.

...BTW, if there really were a search warrant, there would be a public record of it. Can you find it?.....

If its not sealed it can be found. Why don’t you write and call the Gov’s Office and Hawaii AG and ask them? Don’t ask me to do your work for you.

How do you sleep at night?
.... Because I’m standing up for the truth, and I very much enjoy the busting of myths....

You haven’t busted a myth you are one. You go by the name curiosity but you are not curious you are an Obama Kool-Aid drinker with your head in the sand.

.... The sad thing is you are so deluded that you really do think you’re on the side of truth, even though you’re spreading lies and nonsense.

I suggest you retract that statement or prove I have been spreading lies.

If what I say is nonsense seems there are over 100 million other Americans who think Obama’s refusal to produce his long form is nonsense and an act of hiding something. Several states are proposing legislation to make him cough it up, are all these people deluded or are they entitled to the truth and don’t believe your idol and his cohorts? Nonsense? I think you are the one full of it. Boils down to why won’t he open up his records? Each passing day he looks guiltier and guiltier.

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