Posted on 01/30/2011 3:55:56 PM PST by fightinJAG
Well, what a turn-up for the books. Those same liberal circles which flayed the neo-cons alive for pursuing the apparently ludicrous idea that democracy could ever come to the Arab world are now hailing the current upheavals in that same Arab world as .. a democratic awakening.
Maybe it will be so. For sure some at least of the elements involved want true freedom and human rights. But that particular argument against the neo-cons was not wrong (and before anyone flies to their keyboard, let me clarify that what I support, and have always supported, is the principal belief that drove neo-con thinking -- not that democracy in such countries was necessarily achievable, and certainly not overnight, but that there is a moral duty to defeat the jihad in order to defend the west. And that was always a very different matter).
Anyway, back to the crisis at hand. There is no doubt that, in large measure because of the mainly subterranean debate that has been taking place within the Arab and Muslim world as a result of events on and since 9/11, there are powerful yearnings there for democracy and human rights and for an end to the tyranny and oppression under which the inhabitants of such places generally live.
The unhappy fact is, however, that in Egypt and Tunisia and elsewhere in the Arab world where ferment is growing against the tyranny of their regimes, the crucial infrastructure of the rule of law, independent judges and police, free press and so on that are the necessary precondition of democracy just dont exist.
As a result, when tyrants there fall the outcome is generally not the emergence of a free society but a tyranny far worse even than the one that has fallen an Islamic theocracy.
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What we’re on the brink of is World War III. And Obama is at the helm. God help us. God help us all.
A Caliphate .
Egypt will be “democratic” after the first vote. The Muslim Brotherhood and Islam will quickly take over.
If they truly become democratic, then I think ultimately the Islamicists are doomed. Even muslim voters won’t vote for that crap.
Like Iran and Lebanon?......
Barack Hussein Carter will guarantee as much.
Captain Hussein is at the helm...
...leading us right into the Perfect Storm.
Possibly the unification of the Arab world into one Muslim Nation. Similar to what Saud did in Arabia.
Iran is democratic? Who knew?
Lebanon was democratic, until Syria took control. I don’t think that I would describe Lebanon as Islamicist, though.
Yeah, that was said when the Iranian students were hopping up and down in the street.
It didn't happen then either.
Yeah, I can see why the liberals are so ecstatic!
and the West Bank? It went Hamas.
In a Muslim country any election will bring about a totalitarian Muslim Theocratic state. Freedom and Islam can not co-exist.
Yep, nailed it.
Muslim Democracy= One man, one vote, ONCE.
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Really? Is that what you think? The pot's at a slow simmer right now. Pretty soon it's going to boil over.
It has already started, just not reported.
“If they truly become democratic, then I think ultimately the Islamicists are doomed. Even muslim voters wont vote for that crap.”
You have NO CLUE as to the power of HATE, when it is drilled in to the mind from the first days of childhood.
It will not even be close - the Brotherhood wins in a landslide. Mark my words.
Islam=New Dark Ages
Maybe so, but in the end, they will either become dictators (ie. not a democracy), or they will be voted out by their own people.
Either way, my post is correct.
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