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Dallas-area teen pays $637 fine for cursing in class (Teacher was offended)
Houston Chronicle ^ | January 30, 2011 | AP

Posted on 01/30/2011 1:55:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

DALLAS — A suburban Dallas teenager had to take on a waitressing job to pay $637 after being ticketed for using bad language in a high school classroom.

Court records show that teacher Michelle Lene heard Victoria Mullins say "you trying to start (expletive)" loudly in class one day last October. She was sent to the principal's office and given lunch detention. The next day, the school resource officer presented the North Mesquite High School student a ticket.

......The complaint said Lene was offended, and that Mullins' language was a breach of the peace.

Mullins acknowledges she was wrong, but said a classmate was getting on her nerves.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civility; discipline; education
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The teacher was offended! What about students in this class and so many other out of control classes?

I'm offended that my taxed dollars are sunk into the non-productive, non-producing money pit called public education.

So, this is how discipline is handled in our out of control schools. I can see how "educators" might recognize chaos in the classroom as a lucrative source of income.

When will "hardship" and "it's our culture" exemptions kick in?

1 posted on 01/30/2011 1:55:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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She was given lunch detention and then given a ticket - seems she was punished twice for the same offence - is it any wonder kids just give up!

Mel


2 posted on 01/30/2011 1:58:44 AM PST by melsec
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>> So, this is how discipline is handled in our out of control schools.

Well, we’re talking about “in” the classroom in this case. And I think it’s great the kid has to work to pay off the fine. Make em’ all pay for their stupidity - save the taxpayer a few bucks.

Maybe we should mandate hard labor in place of 9th grade, then stick em’ back into the classroom thereafter. I guarantee their attitudes, grades, and vernacular will improve.


3 posted on 01/30/2011 2:02:51 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“So, this is how discipline is handled in our out of control schools.”

When I was in school, back in the dark ages, discipline
came from the business end of an oak paddle.


4 posted on 01/30/2011 2:09:38 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In the good old days, they would have washed out her mouth with soap.


5 posted on 01/30/2011 2:09:46 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

One guy in my class was made to eat the cigarettes found in his bookbag. He did, however, get to spit out them out in the trash rather than ingest them.


6 posted on 01/30/2011 2:13:40 AM PST by tenthirteen
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7 posted on 01/30/2011 2:14:44 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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“Maybe we should mandate hard labor in place of 9th grade, then stick em’ back into the classroom thereafter. I guarantee their attitudes, grades, and vernacular will improve.”

That’s a good idea. Let them do a summer of heavy labor prior to entering 9th grade. School would seem really easy after that.


8 posted on 01/30/2011 2:40:38 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I bet she is caucasian.


9 posted on 01/30/2011 2:49:46 AM PST by Venturer
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I love this. Perhaps we should charge students for all bad behavior. MAYBE students will be forced to be decent instead of nasty brats. I hope this continues and intensifies.


10 posted on 01/30/2011 2:58:10 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I bet she is caucasian.

Note -- the Dallas paper makes the distinction, that she is a "suburban teenager." So I am left with the impression that they wanted to distinguish her from "inner city."

11 posted on 01/30/2011 3:15:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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In high school back in the mid 70's in the 11th grade I had an English teacher a retired Army Colonel. If the class wasn't paying attention he would let out with a Da**it and toss his desktop podium to the back of the class. That was an attention getter. Then afterward out came the Shakespeare reading & test.

The man understood we were not college bound students and used the class time usually for some wise and sage advice about real life we were soon to face. He told us about a man who began the nation on the wrong path & almost toward a dictatorship. He hated FDR with a passion. LOL.

As for the girl in this article? I'd dish out some extra assignments {research} and a week of after school suspension. I think that was the going punishment in my school days for minor infractions.

Actual monetary fines for these type of problems? I hate to see this happening in schools. $637 is ridiculous meaning it is simply another revenue generation scam dreamed up by some politician with police as the revenue officer. Had the kid physically assaulted the teacher? Oh yea $637 plus suspension for the semester. Assault is an actual crime. The $637 would be worked off two hours per day at minimum wage cleaning the school restrooms during after school hours.

12 posted on 01/30/2011 3:23:13 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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One of the best teachers I had was a marine, who after leaving the service went into teaching. He was respectful but seen as an authority figure. He expected us to learn and we did. You felt good when you went to class. You tried hard to understand and learn the material. And you felt proud when you aced his tests.


13 posted on 01/30/2011 3:37:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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I see no way they would have given a black girl a ticket for using bad language. I just don’t see it.

Jesse and Sharpton would have been down on them like stink on a skunk.


14 posted on 01/30/2011 3:38:21 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Then what’s Biden’s fine for “this is a BFD”??


15 posted on 01/30/2011 4:08:56 AM PST by trailz
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To: melsec
You would change your attitude after one day in a classroom.

Not enough $$$ fro me to spend a day in a HS classrrom. From what I hear the parents are the biggest problem...usually they are suing the teachers...and all their little darlings are victims.

This type behavior is why teachers give up, IMO.

16 posted on 01/30/2011 4:18:36 AM PST by lonestar
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Your comments about how "educators might recognize chaos in the classroom as a lucrative source of income" is off base and shows just how ignorant you are. Teachers don't get the ticket money.

I'm a public school teacher in Texas. I get offended when my students-- 6th graders, mind you-- use language. They say sh/t, f&&k, d&%k, c%$k, bi%$h, and so on. It's not an every day occurrence, but when it happens, I write it up. It offends me-- at school or here at FR. [I notice that "pu$$y" was very popular here. It offended me. Still does.] Teachers get to be offended. You would be.

The student may or may not get a citation. Someone else, not me, the teacher, decides whether to give that citation. Someone else-- the judge-- decides whether there's a fine or community service or a warning.

Know what you're talking about before you shoot your mouth off.

17 posted on 01/30/2011 4:52:01 AM PST by Clara Lou
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Well, if you can’t see a “black girl” getting a ticket for bad language, then you need to come into the real world. It happens all the time. If there’s a citation, then mama has to to stand in front of the judge and take a lecture. Mama don’ like that. You’d be amazed how effective it is in shutting down the language.


18 posted on 01/30/2011 4:54:56 AM PST by Clara Lou
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Know what you're talking about before you shoot your mouth off.

Here endeth Clara Lou's lesson in manners.

Do you express these same feelings, in the same manner, to your teacher's union?

19 posted on 01/30/2011 4:59:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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LOL! Foul language shouldn't offend teachers, but you are offended by "shoot your mouth off"!! Hypocrite!!

I note that you did not respond to the meat of my comments-- because you would have to acknowledge your ignorance.

In the furtherance of correcting your ignorance, you should know that there are no teachers unions in Texas. Are there any other "misconceptions" that I need to correct for you?

20 posted on 01/30/2011 5:16:46 AM PST by Clara Lou
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