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BACHMANN PLAN SLAMMED BY VETERANS' GROUPS (American Legion v. Tea Party?)
Washington Monthly ^ | 1/29/11 | Steve Benen

Posted on 01/29/2011 9:06:02 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) broke unexpected ground this week, presenting a budget plan that included freezing Veterans Affairs health care spending and cutting veterans' disability benefits considerably.

To put it mildly, the Bachmann proposal has not gone over well among groups representing the needs and interests of veterans.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonmonthly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; bachman; bachmann; benefits; michelebachmann; pagingpissant; supportourmilitary; veterans
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Let’s distinguish between disability pensions, which are given to any veteran with an income below a certain level, and disability compensation, which is exactly that, repayment for injuries suffered during military service. I’m on the 100% list due to malpractice by the Army medical system (mis-diagnosis of cancer symptoms as a ‘mental problem’). By law, I was not allowed to sue the Army doctors, my only recourse was through VA compensation.

Now, I have a standing offer. If you want my money and benefits, you can have them. But I want something in return: your large intestine. I no longer have one, and I miss it. And the next time the cancer comes back, you can take the chemo. Three times is enough.

No takers yet.


41 posted on 01/29/2011 9:44:57 AM PST by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The Army Times "Bachmann plan would cut veterans benefits"

Army Times will only allow the posting of titles and links, but this a a good read on the issue. There's a little more info than I have seen from the MSM so far.

42 posted on 01/29/2011 9:45:06 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Michele can and probably will reverse course on this issue.

No fuss, no muss.

43 posted on 01/29/2011 9:46:17 AM PST by Walts Ice Pick ("I'm not going to shut up!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“We need to cut government spending! But don’t cut any of my benefits! We need to cut ‘other peoples’ benefits!”

Sorry vets, unemployed, contractors, government employees, Joe Blow, etc...

Everybody has to take a cut. Yes, EVERYONE! NO EXCEPTIONS! Otherwise this is just a waste of time. Go spend yourselves and your children into bankruptcy, and blame “other people.” Just keep on going. It’s not your fault.


44 posted on 01/29/2011 9:51:11 AM PST by henkster (Before we make any more "investments" we ought to be shown the prospectus.)
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To: org.whodat
Standard attack piece, where is the plan that says all of this, I doubt it exists.

I would like to see it too before joining in a media-generated frenzy against Michele Bachmann where her views might be deliberately misrepresented.

45 posted on 01/29/2011 9:51:11 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Getting hurt in the military=lotto win..

Even non-combat, you’re set for life as far as any health considerations. That’s just how it is, right or wrong.


46 posted on 01/29/2011 9:53:58 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Mountain Troll
No taker here. Cut the wasteful spending, but not the benefits.

BTW, thanks for your service. I'm sorry you have been let down. If there is an organization that supports those in your position, post it so we can support them.

47 posted on 01/29/2011 9:55:06 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: WestwardHo
I have a friend who was a member of the MS Air Guard. He never left the US or was in vietnam. But was on a deployment to some air base in Alaska and unloaded some palletes of equipment from a cargo plane returning from DaNang. He is getting some kind of VA disibality for Agent Orange exposure for this!

he told me I could do the same thing since I was stationed in DaNang. I refuse to even think about participating in that kind of scam!

48 posted on 01/29/2011 9:55:32 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: dfwgator
This will get smeared all over every conservative by the media!

The don't give a crap about Bachman, they want to turn everyone against conservatives.

49 posted on 01/29/2011 9:59:22 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Here is where this is scaring me. My Husband is set to retire in August. He was diagnosed with cancer in November. He is going through treatment now but it is a very long hard road. He had planed to get a job after retirement but we can’t even think about that now. We are worried about life insurance etc...

We have his retainer after 27 years (0-4) and we NEED our medical benefits. We have no idea what disability is going to be applied.

Now when cuts are discussed in any way for vets or retirees, I get really ticked off. No matter who is bringing up this “discussion”.


50 posted on 01/29/2011 9:59:26 AM PST by submarinerswife (Stay focused and determined. Our destination is NOVEMBER!!)
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To: RocketRoland

Even though I appreciate your attitude and offer of more sacrifice, I think cutting disability for the millions of idiots (non-veteran) who get on the teat would be a good start to save money. I have two folks in my extended family who have somehow convinced SS that they have a disability. Free housing, cash and free health care..... they don’t live well but they also don’t have to work. Pisses me off daily.


51 posted on 01/29/2011 9:59:47 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA ("The View" is the new Maury Povich inspired "Fight Club in Heels")
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To: Manly Warrior; NordP

Yeah, I’m with NordP. Great post!


52 posted on 01/29/2011 10:00:50 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: pnh102
Our veterans sacrificed too much to be thrown away at the expense of paying for a useless person's welfare check.

Yeah, lets just become a socialist-Marxist country while we are at it, since everybody including grandma want her freebees. Don't cut anything, don't cut Social Security, don't cut Medicare, Medicaid, Defense and lets just see where we end up after the printing presses run out of green ink. It won't be pretty.

53 posted on 01/29/2011 10:01:00 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: lonevoice

I have no doubt they are misrepresented.


54 posted on 01/29/2011 10:05:50 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: submarinerswife

You husbands benefits are not going to be cut, not now not ever, bank on it.


55 posted on 01/29/2011 10:09:13 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Bingo!!!!


56 posted on 01/29/2011 10:10:43 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: WestwardHo

You are absolutely correct, I had a neighbor who was a case in point. He received 100% disability because he was an alcoholic due not to his time in Korea but for years as a merchant seaman. There many more like this.


57 posted on 01/29/2011 10:12:33 AM PST by gunner03
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To: dfwgator
"It’s as if a lot of Tea Partiers actually believe being media savvy is a negative trait."

Exactly my point, dead on!

I believe TP'ers will accept, indeed they will welcome DC outsiders. But nothing is achieved getting behind people who are not aware of imagery and optics...and prove their unawareness by scrimping on a few camera-lessons and thereby destroying their commiunications effectiveness. I don't think I'm talking about Emmy-award level stuff, either. Robert Gibbs and Nancy Pelosi don't exactly come off very smoothly, and they have no problem dissembling and blathering on.

Bachmann needs some camera-gravitas lessons. I don't have one shred of doubt that she knows law, is very intelligent, and has a fine instinct for Constitutional principles. The issue is, when you look bad on camera, it cheapens your message, it is seriously on the record, and it gives the opposition lots of ammunition supplies.

58 posted on 01/29/2011 10:13:52 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
From the link to the .pdf at Bachman's website:

"Veterans:

$4.5 Billion Cap increases in Department of Veterans Affairs health care spending, and reduce disability compensation to account for SS disability payments. Reduce Veterans’ Disability Compensation to account for Social Security Disability Insurance payments."

59 posted on 01/29/2011 10:15:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: trisham

“This may have been a fatal mistake. We shall see.”

I hope not, as a vet (1978-85) I get next to no benefits as it is, so be it. I think everything should be on the table.

I think the Republicans should take a page from the Dems, they passed Obamacare instead of tweaking around the edges, the Republicans should cut EVERYTHING 2% each year for the next ten years - in 10 years the government will be 20% smaller than today.


60 posted on 01/29/2011 10:15:16 AM PST by Sparky1776
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