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To: dragnet2; Gilbo_3

I think the point Gilbo was making is that instead of SOME ADULT male/males taking action and trying to possibly subdue the fictitious “shooter”, or better yet, an ARMED adult (they are, after all, responsible for the safety of hundreds of kids - at the “request” of the state - and instead, they lock down the place, and people go into “Sheep” mode - i.e., waiting to die unless help arrives. Suppose the Shooter is LOCKED INSIDE the building with all those kids? That scenario just gave him a captive audience for target practice.

In ANY situation, YOU are the First Responder - just you, and no one else - directly responsible for your OWN safety.

Am I recommending attacking someone with a gun in their hand? Well, in a word, if he’s going to kill you, he’s going to do it whether you lay on the floor and bleat, or whether you jump on him and sink your teeth into his face and your thumbs in his eyes in a last desperate attempt to stay alive and FIGHT BACK. And the more people that attack the shooter - with extreme violence, from all sides - the less carnage he can inflict.

The majority of people have been Pavlovianized since birth to accept violence until some “help” authoritarian figure arrives. This gets people killed.

The cops’ job is to draw the chalk line around your corpse, period, and solve the crime afterwards. He isn’t there at the moment the killing begins. You are, and it’s on you and those around to react as quickly, as violently, and as forcefully as you can while you still draw breath. If it’s going to be your last breath, what the hell do you have to lose by trying - you may actually save someone else in so doing.

Me? I’d rather not be the chalkee. I’m going to be armed, no matter what, no matter where. Don’t talk to me about “legal” vs “illegal” either. It’s illegal to murder people, yet it happens every day. Most people that get murdered die because they’re not paying attention to their surroundings, not picking up threat signals, and just plain not thinking - and they’re not armed to deal with a threat.

My life means more to me than some stupid law dreamed up by some little bureaucratic P*ssy who’s too stupid to spell his own name. I have people that depend on me, and, well, my philosophy is such that “This Unit Will Survive” - by the good grace of God, of course.

If we truly want to believe we are Free Men, then we each must live and act like it. And that means carrying and acepting the responsibily and the consequences of it, good or bad.

Acting like sheep, and teaching others to act like sheep, is NOT how free people behave. And we sure as Hell weren’t always this way. This has been DONE to us intentionally.

Imagine - the Virginia Tech shooter, shot dead by an armed student or teacher, 3.5 seconds after he drew and started shooting. Maybe he’d have only killed one or two poor kids by that time - INSTEAD of 33. One is a tragedy; thirty three is a CRIME on the heads of those who passed laws denying people the means to protect themselves.

And guess what? THEY didn’t go to jail. They’re still walking around, making law, and THEY’RE as responsible, to my mind, as the shooter, because they used the color of law to deprive good, decent folks of the right to protect themselvs. And those kids are still dead.

But no...we play by the rules. And because we do, people get slaughtered and die.

Sorry Dragnet, for the rant...but this is a Hale button, and it sets me off.

And as for this “cop” faking a shooting incident - there’s ZERO EXCUSE for a dirty cop. This asshole should be publically stripped of his badge, his gun, jis pension, and thrown in jail for thirty years as an example.


37 posted on 01/28/2011 1:54:58 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Thanks for all that, but it could have been much worse...No one was hurt, and the bad guy is in jail.


38 posted on 01/28/2011 2:16:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NFHale
sink your teeth into his face and your thumbs in his eyes

Dr Lecter, how about dinner ??? 8^}

40 posted on 01/28/2011 6:18:03 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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