I’m just saying I have yet to hear anyone talk about which Hawaii document is generated when a non-hospital birth takes place or when such a birth is alleged to have occurred on application of the birth mother.
Of course any explanation as straightforward would have been put out in association with the online COLB...
A home birth would still be reported on a long-form BC, but if what the HDOH said to Lori Starfelt is correct, it would be completed by a doctor when the baby was examined by the doctor within the first 30 days after birth.
If you look at the CDC’s 1961 Natality Report there are very few births listed as “unattended” - probably because those are cases where somebody DIDN’T have the baby seen by a doctor. I wonder how many of those who never bothered to have a doctor complete the BC were either abandoned babies or the birth was unattended and the child died shortly after birth.
My sister has had 5 of her 7 children born at home under the care of a midwife and I believe she had a doctor complete the birth certificates each time because Nebraska at the time did not allow planned home births and the midwife could have gotten in trouble for signing the BC’s.
A long-form would also be used if somebody reported a birth to a local registrar. But again, the child would need to be seen by a doctor to complete the BC. If the HDOH was accurate to Lori Starfelt.
The only other birth certificate forms they have are
1) the delayed birth certificate, which is used if the birth was reported after the first 3 months but before a year (at least I think that was what was in effect at the time; they’ve had 3 different sets of terminology since they became a state). It is a different form altogether and at the time it would not have been considered prima facie evidence; and
2) the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (COHB), which was used for people who hadn’t registered their birth in the first year. It required certain forms of evidence and the lieutenant governor had to review the evidence and sign the COHB saying there was enough evidence to prove a Hawaii birth. It included a photo of the registrant and a description of permanent physical features. It is also a totally different form that is created by the Lt Gov.
So a long-form is the only option for what Obama could have, unless his birth was registered 3 or more months after birth.
That’s how I understand it anyway, based on the HDOH Rules.