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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE

Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ya know I was thinking....Winston Churchill’s mother was a natural born American… …of course his father was a Brit. and Winny was born in....Hawaii...yeah that’s the ticket Hawaii....now that means that the British Bulldog was really and American Pit Bull...and believe you me he would have made a better POTUS than socialist FDR any friggin’ day. And his superiority over our current POSOTUS is too huge to make an intelligent comparison.


241 posted on 01/28/2011 5:05:15 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: opentalk
The article says they want to charge $100 for Obama birth records not Birth Certificate. -—
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Good point!

These guys and gals are weasles with words.

242 posted on 01/28/2011 5:12:48 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: F15Eagle; wolfcreek

I heard Mike’s update today and he said he “misspoke” about the BC. I call bullshit on this entire deal. I’ll bet there has never been any long form BC.


243 posted on 01/28/2011 5:14:11 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Idiots keep the story in the MSM. True believers with no orders from the White Hut?


244 posted on 01/28/2011 5:14:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: F15Eagle

Mike Evans ‘misspoke’. The Obama code word for, ‘Oh bloody shite I said something I was not suppose to that someone spent loads of money covering up’.


246 posted on 01/28/2011 5:48:22 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: F15Eagle

He told over 30 stations that story. The article says 34, but I heard it was many more. Mike is probably scared because he got a call from the administration to STFU. As I said earlier, this stinks and I call it bullshit.


247 posted on 01/28/2011 6:02:41 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Barry Davis?


248 posted on 01/28/2011 6:11:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Here is a man who met Barack Obama – who told him he was born in Kenya !!! Read for yourself

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2664555/posts

Friday, January 28, 2011 9:12:22 AM · 44 of 44

Hotlanta Mike to RaceBannon

RB, can you take a look at some photos and these interview clips and say whether POPS you saw back in 1980 was this guy, Frank Marshall Davis?

Frank Marshall Davis Interview

Interview with notable African-American poet and journalist Frank Marshall Davis. Frank is mentioned in Barak Obamas “Dreams From My Father”, as a drinking buddy of his grandfather and an African American that made an impression on the now President as a young man growing up in Hawaii. The Film & Media Archive partnered with the Center for Labor Education and Research (CLEAR) at the University of Hawaii West Oahu to preserve the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

West Oahu Preserves Frank Marshall Davis Interview

http://www.hawaii.edu/newsatuh/2009/10/west-oahu-preserves-frank-marshall-davis-interview/

Frank Marshall Davis - Rice & Roses Documentary (part 3/3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaWyyOUa3g&feature=related

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/en-frank-marshall-davis6.jpg

http://library.wustl.edu/units/spec/filmandmedia/photos/fmd_family.jpg

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249 posted on 01/28/2011 6:20:38 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion
Like I've said before you are very smart.

I'm sticking with my description of the con. I'm glad you aren't up on con techniques, that's good. But for various reasons -- I am. What crystallized the two-step con for me were two recent things, one a recollection of a perfected con that cost a friend of mine -- who was used as the dupe in it -- his law license. The story of that con is retold here.

The sharpies in that one had a goal, but there was a legal impediment to that goal. They were missing one key piece. Or rather, that key piece was no going to allow the deal to go through. So they set up a distraction con. One that was risky, but they got away with it.

And then, in that same period of a few days, we have the clockers on the Obama team spinning up this new legend of "the father's foreign citizenship was never an issue before the election. Never. Period." They want to poison the issue of the father's foreign citizenship as a desperation toss, brought up too late, and that it's just racist reactionary desperation.

Why the new spin?

Simple, given the con model I proposed in the earlier post. The distraction part of the con is to keep the focus on where Obama was born!

250 posted on 01/28/2011 6:21:23 AM PST by bvw
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Even if they come up with a birth certificate all of the sudden after paying millions to keep it hidden for a couple of years it will not mean Obama is eligible to be our president. His father was never a United States citizen. That means Obama was a dual citizen at birth. So Obama is not and never was a natural born citizen. It doesn’t matter if he was born on the desk in the oval office. He is not a natural born citizen. He is a usurper. Obama supporters can come up with all the childish names like “birther” that they want to. I am not afraid of name calling. Ridicule has been effective in keeping people from questioning Obama’s lack of legal eligibility to be president. Even some people that say things like “When they come for my guns I will give them my bullets” are afraid to be called a name like birther. So it is possible to be brave enough to put your life on the line to defend your liberty but avoiding name calling is more important than standing up for those same freedoms.


251 posted on 01/28/2011 6:45:59 AM PST by FreeRepublicGuy
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To: little jeremiah

It was hard for people Americans to go to Pakistan, not impossible. But it was not easy at all.


I also read there was a limit of 30 days for a visit ;

and he stayed longer.


252 posted on 01/28/2011 6:47:44 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: bvw

It’s definitely true that I’m naive about the ways of crooks, although dealing with the HDOH has brought me up to speed on a lot. lol and sigh. You have insight that I don’t and I can only respect your opinion because of that. You could very well be right.

I do know that if it is a con it involves the cooperation of multiple state and federal agencies as well, which is what concerns me most. The rule of law must never be trampled - not even to support a con by the most powerful people in our land. That’s what my research and interest in the eligibility bills is all about - government accountability and the rule of law.

I do believe, though, that regardless of what distractions they make, their very expensive con is not going to work because the state eligibility bills that are likely to get passed are based on the “2 citizen parent and born in America” definition of NBC - which means that SCOTUS will have to rule on that, and Obama will eventually have to be evaluated according to what they rule.

So ultimately the only con that matters is what they can pull over on SCOTUS, or the ways that they can manipulate SCOTUS into doing their will. The state eligibility bills can provide transparency so that the courts will at least be accountable to facts.


253 posted on 01/28/2011 6:51:11 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I suspect — just speculating — that Obama and Team Obama know already that his Hawaiian records state that he was born in Hawaii. I also suspect — and this is because it is an art of con to use a technique like this — that the birth records, although minimal and maybe just a related person’s claim that Obama was born in Hawaii — have some embarrassing aspect or fact in them.

The art of the con play is then that the Hawaiian officials would be told, “Look, friend, this record is embarrassing, you can see that. We’d very much appreciate if you could keep it sealed, or whatever you can do to keep it from the public. We hope you can see how obvious it is why we’d want that done, right? Can you help us?”

Of course the good official would help! It’s not even criminal or conspiratorial motive on their part.

A masterful con.


254 posted on 01/28/2011 7:02:21 AM PST by bvw
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If indeed Obama is shown to be ineligible, the recriminations thru the political and media complex will be both large and painful. I can see drive by media headquarters being mobbed. The democrat party will be sent to the ash heap of history. And in the melée, I think that if Obama is gone, the next to blame and hold accountable is George Soros.


255 posted on 01/28/2011 7:14:17 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: johncocktoasten
I wonder if Dems who are beginning to doubt his eligibility are doing this so when the defecation hits the oscillating unit, they can be divided from the Party (who abetted this fraud) through their actions in uncovering it? Just a thought.
256 posted on 01/28/2011 7:18:48 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: liberalh8ter

Any one who approved the electoral college certificates of assertainment in the house of representatives will have no deniability. This issues was right up front in 2008-09 when the ec was meeting and when the house counted the votes. Additionally, the electors in the states are criminally implicated as well. Electors can vote for whoever they choose, and are not bound by the will of voters. In my opinion, voting for an ineligible person on the presidential electoral college ballot is a crime. There is a reason why the ec was set up for electors to vote and not just have a numerical value awarded for winning each state. The electors were supposed to be the republic’s line of defense against unlawful candidates.


257 posted on 01/28/2011 7:30:35 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: johncocktoasten

Thank you for your insightful response!


258 posted on 01/28/2011 7:37:30 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Tribune7

so you think it’s a great idea for obama to show a birth certificate? That birth certificate has to show that obama was born to parents that were both U.S. citizens. If he now comes out with a new certificate showing that obama sr. was not his father, why should we trust him? If he faked his first birth “birth certificate, why should we believe that the second one is real? obama will do everything possible to block such a release. He knows that he is not eligible to be President. The official definition for Natural Born citizen is CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN. This Article 2 requirement means both parents must be U.S. citizens. It does not matter whether he was born in Hawaii ( highly unlikely) or Kenya(99% chance) he is ineligible to be the President.


259 posted on 01/28/2011 7:42:52 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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0Please sign in to rate this comment up.Please sign in to rate this comment down.0Potatohead 4 minutes ago Report Abuse

I believe this is the least of his problems,do not get me wrong there is something not right about the slim shady way he has not been willing to divulge all docs. Here this though, this guy is so crooked and his administration that I believe once the republicans in the house start having some hearings on all the scandalist crap that has been going on under Pelosi and Reids watch that they were unwilling to have hearings on, there will be alot of incriminating stuff coming up and hopefully it will reach all the way to this clown. This guy is an absolute joke, who is destroying are country.

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Tools. Obama lives in your head.. Rent Free! Get a life.

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0Please sign in to rate this comment up.Please sign in to rate this comment down.0Frozenberry 6 minutes ago Report Abuse

Racists for Ubama unite!

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1Please sign in to rate this comment up.Please sign in to rate this comment down.2Unclesmrgol 8 minutes ago Report Abuse

President Obama could fix this himself in an instant. I wonder why he hasn't?

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4Please sign in to rate this comment up.Please sign in to rate this comment down.1ScallyWag 9 minutes ago Report Abuse

Do any of you have an idea where McCain was born?

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1Please sign in to rate this comment up.Please sign in to rate this comment down.1John C 11 minutes ago Report Abuse

Why did the President and Others FIGHT the Birth Certificate being Shown at All. Is it a Birth Cretificate of a Certificate of Birth Isued by the Health Department? A Certificate of Birth was at one Time Different from a Birth Certificate. Has that Changed? The Health Department Certificate only means that a Person was Certified by the Health Department as having a Birth Certificate Issued Somewhere. Has this Changed?

We will Never know.

I do Not Understand WHY a Birth Certificate is a Problem for Anyone who is True American Born.

Why is this Question out there?

Because the President and his Advisors have Refused to Show the Birth Certificate. Just more Politics.

I guess nearly 3 years of Freepin' is finally starting to have an effect.

Congratulations everyone on a job well done !

260 posted on 01/28/2011 8:56:29 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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