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To: Bigun

Is the ambassador from Ireland subject to the jurisdiction of the United States while in the United States?

No.

His child, therefore, is not automatically a United States citizen when born here.

He is not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

Someone who crosses the border illegally is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

The Constitution is clear. We need to change the Constitution to correct this.


12 posted on 01/27/2011 11:11:43 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

What about a baby born to a tourist?


13 posted on 01/27/2011 11:13:36 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The Constitution is fine.
It was the courts that changed the original intent of the Amendment.
A law is more than adequate to correct it.


16 posted on 01/27/2011 11:20:56 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Someone who crosses the border illegally is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

I beg to differ

That person is subject to the jurisdiction of whatever country he came here from and MUST be returned there ASAP!

25 posted on 01/27/2011 11:41:03 AM PST by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I am not convinced that the term “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is equivalent to “having both (or one) feet inside the border thereof”.
This would be a superfluous clause as the state “having both (or one) foot inside the border thereof” is covered by the prior “All persons born or naturalized in the United States.”

This is a different statement of some of the opinions already posted.

One for the SCOTUS. Stay tuned.


32 posted on 01/27/2011 12:03:07 PM PST by PeteCat
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Someone who crosses the border illegally is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

No. They are legally subject to the jurisdiction of their home country.

35 posted on 01/27/2011 12:07:06 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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