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Judges to weigh mortgage document destruction
Reuters/YahooNews ^ | 1/24/10 | Scot J. Paltrow Scot J. Paltrow

Posted on 01/24/2011 9:07:05 AM PST by Kartographer

Federal bankruptcy judges in Delaware are due to hold separate hearings Monday on requests by two defunct subprime mortgage lenders to destroy thousands of boxes of original loan documents.

The requests, by trustees liquidating Mortgage Lenders Network USA and American Home Mortgage, come despite intense concerns that paperwork critical to foreclosures and securitized investments may be lost.

A series of recent court rulings have increased the importance of original loan documents, holding that they are essential for investors to prove ownership of mortgages and to have the right to foreclose.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: boa; fraud; mortgages; titles
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Got to get this stuff destroyed if they are to cover their trail.
1 posted on 01/24/2011 9:07:07 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: Leisler; DuncanWaring; kiryandil; NVDave; Chunga85; Neidermeyer; tweakDU; WILLIALAL; FromLori; ...

PING!


2 posted on 01/24/2011 9:08:15 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Chunga

Of interest PING!


3 posted on 01/24/2011 9:09:21 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Kartographer

“Got to get this stuff destroyed if they are to cover their trail.”

That was my first thought.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 9:11:36 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Kartographer

Yep, can’t afford a few hundred bucks a month for a large storage area to let them sit there, we have to destroy them instead.

With all the BS going on with these companies and the foreclosure problems arising from them this doesn’t pass the smell test. If these judges allow this now they should be disbarred.


5 posted on 01/24/2011 9:21:25 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kartographer

Note that the “benefits of government purchasing power” works even when storing cardboard boxes.

18,000 boxes cost $16K a month to store? You’re telling me that the government pays 89 cents a month to store a cardboard box in dead storage?

I think I just came up with a great use for the headquarters of the Department of Education.


6 posted on 01/24/2011 9:21:51 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Abathar

Hey wait! On second thought I am almost positive my mortgage was sold through American Home Mortgage years ago. I still have my original copy of it but if they want to destroy their only legal link to my home then okay by me, hell go ahead and burn away!


7 posted on 01/24/2011 9:27:27 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Allowing over 3 cubic feet per box, which is probably larger than they run, you could easily put these all into climate-controlled storage here in FL for less than $700/month.


8 posted on 01/24/2011 9:29:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Abathar

The judges have to allow it. It’s a big can of worms that they hadn’t planned on having to deal with (I mean, really, who gave these uppity homeowners the idea to ask for the law to be followed?).


9 posted on 01/24/2011 9:50:22 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Sherman Logan

Iron Mountain Inc. is more than just climate-controlled storage. I don’t know about you, but I’d like my financial documents to be stored in a secure location.


10 posted on 01/24/2011 10:13:36 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Climate-controlled storage may be just a little better than destruction.


11 posted on 01/24/2011 10:15:18 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Maybe.

Maybe not.

All depends on what’s in the files and how secure it is(n’t), I suppose. :-)


12 posted on 01/24/2011 10:17:17 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Sherman Logan

$700 a month seems dramatically low, I’d estimate 7 per layer, 3 high on a 48*48 pallet, stacked two high. 42 per pallet = 428.5 pallet footprints. Generously, 5 * 5 per pallet = 10,700 sq ft. Buck a square foot is almost $11K/month without the slightest attempt to economize.

We’re probably getting off pretty easy here; left to full government supervision I’d have to estimate the bill as getting up to the $40-$50K range.

Then again, the dual garages of about ten foreclosed houses could do the same thing, for free.


13 posted on 01/24/2011 10:38:42 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Kartographer

The real issue is have they indexed the documents to allow retrieval? If that hasn’t happened they might as well be destroyed. An Army Corps of Engineers office stored a lrage body of work somewhere offsite, A latter commander ordered a house cleaning and the index was inadvertantly thrown out. They have no way to retrieve anything in storage.

We had a copy of a report locally produced by the Army in 1970 that they had “lost” through the index fiasco. It was a very pertinent document needed for a later study. The Army was very happy we had a copy.


14 posted on 01/24/2011 11:00:41 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Kartographer

Yep, those original docs are proof of fraud.


15 posted on 01/24/2011 11:22:29 AM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Thanks for the ping...this show hasn't even started yet!
16 posted on 01/24/2011 1:10:46 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Kartographer

Obvious, isn’t it.


17 posted on 01/24/2011 2:50:18 PM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and WASTED my vote.)
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To: meatloaf

I think you have your finger on it. I think they have these huge piles of docs and no way to index them.


18 posted on 01/24/2011 2:54:38 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

On second thought, methinks I dropped a decimal point in there somewhere.

Thanks.

That’s what I get for running calcs in my head.


19 posted on 01/24/2011 3:32:33 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Quite understood! The stuff that drops off the calcs I run in my head could pay a few months rent for most o’ them boxes.


20 posted on 01/24/2011 3:55:55 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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