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Duelling fighter jet dogfight ends in near miss
www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk ^ | Fri Jan 21 2011 | Ben Truslove

Posted on 01/22/2011 8:13:53 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Duelling fighter jet dogfight ends in near miss

By Ben Truslove Published on Fri Jan 21 10:51:11 GMT 2011

STARTLED onlookers were left fearing the worst as two jet fighter aircraft appeared to come close to colliding during a mock battle exercise in the skies above Deeping St James.

Villagers held their breath as the pair of multi-million pound American F-15 jets circled the skies above their homes at high speed for about 10 minutes.

Witnesses say the spectacle ended when the pilots appeared to narrowly avoid a crash before then heading off back to the American air base at RAF Lakenheath, in Suffolk.

Now a Deeping St James councillor has called for an investigation into the incident, which happened above Deeping St Nicholas, on Wednesday about 3.30pm.

Aircraft enthusiast and trainee pilot Andy Rowan, of Deeping St Nicholas, took this stunning photograph – and the one on the front page – in the skies above his home.

Mr Rowan, who has 22 hours flying experience, said: “When I heard the jets I ran out to see if I could get a picture. I was amazed because they were throwing themselves all over the place doing afterburn turns and stall turns.

“They then went at each other really quickly and then pulled out. All of a sudden they slowed down and stopped the acrobatics. It was as if they realised what had happened and thought it best to stop.

“I knew it was close at the time but it wasn’t until I put my pictures on the computer that I realised just how close.

“I’ve been to a few aeroplane shows and seen many stunts but I’ve never seen anything that close.”

The fighter jets, thought to cost about $30 million each, operate from US Air Force 492D Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath.

Philip Dilks, chairman of Deeping St James parish council, who has lived in the village for 30 years, said: “We get the occasional jet screaming over the village but it’s not a constant problem. But I have to say if there has been an incident it needs investigating and I’m sure the authorities will let us know either way.”

An RAF Lakenheath spokesman: “Two F-15 jets were training in the area. They were doing close pass training. I imagine from the ground it looks pretty close but in reality they are not within 500 ft of each other. It is fairly common training.”

A spokesman for the Airprox Board, which investigates near misses, said a near miss depends on the planes involved, circumstances and conditions at the time. Pilots and air traffic control will say if they feel comfortable about an incident before deciding on an investigation.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerobatics; aerospace; lakenheath; sourcetitlenoturl; suffolk; usaf
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One of the images of the American F-15 jets captured by reader Andy Rowan from Deeping St Nicholas.

1 posted on 01/22/2011 8:13:56 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Fully armed? Looks close but angles from afar play tricks.


2 posted on 01/22/2011 8:22:27 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A “near” miss for them would have to involve some trading of paint. ;-)
You couldn’t even reach out and touch the other plane from that picture!


3 posted on 01/22/2011 8:25:26 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Much ado about nothing.


4 posted on 01/22/2011 8:26:11 AM PST by izzatzo
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“When two planes almost collide, they call it a near miss. It’s a near hit. A collision is a near miss. “ - George Carlin


5 posted on 01/22/2011 8:27:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: sukhoi-30mki

From the picture, they could have decent altitude separation. The rules could have changes since I flew in England, but you didn’t do 10 minutes of dogfighting anywhere...heck, 10 minutes of full up dogfighting would probably run you out of gas.

Intercept training? Sure, and that was much different from dogfighting.


6 posted on 01/22/2011 8:31:21 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Mr Rowan, who has 22 hours flying experience, said:

Wow! A veritable Pappy Boyington in the making

They were doing close pass training

OOOOOH! Scary stuff. [For a bluesuiter, maybe]

7 posted on 01/22/2011 8:35:23 AM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Free airshow.


8 posted on 01/22/2011 8:36:21 AM PST by PAR35
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To: RGSpincich

Telemetry and targeting pods for training?
The pods replace functional Sidewinder and AAMRAM ordinance.


9 posted on 01/22/2011 8:46:04 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: sukhoi-30mki

” multi-million pound American F-15 jets”

Didn’t realize they were that heavy! 8^)


10 posted on 01/22/2011 8:50:14 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Deeping St James .... Deeping St Nicholas
Have never heard the term "Deeping." I assume it's a town or province?
11 posted on 01/22/2011 8:58:26 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Wouldn't that be a near hit? A near miss would mean a collision. "Woops. Nearly missed 'em."

Thank you, George Carlin.

12 posted on 01/22/2011 9:01:28 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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13 posted on 01/22/2011 9:05:49 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Jet Jaguar

PING!


14 posted on 01/22/2011 9:11:22 AM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: SJSAMPLE

IIRC they would carry “captive” ordinance to do this sort of training in which they have active seeker heads but no warhead or motors.


15 posted on 01/22/2011 9:11:35 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: 6SJ7
I was at Pensacola NAS a couple of weeks ago. The museum there is great.
16 posted on 01/22/2011 9:12:17 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: izzatzo
Interesting that they were doing it over a village. Around these parts they do it out over the swamps, or in the gulf.

For good reasons - F-15 collision

17 posted on 01/22/2011 9:12:42 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: sukhoi-30mki
While a picture may be worth a thousand words, appearances can be deceiving! This picture below had several posts on FR back in 2009. When I first saw it, I swore that it had to be "Photoshopped" but was later assured that it was real and was a picture from the 2009 Detroit Airshow.


18 posted on 01/22/2011 9:13:48 AM PST by SES1066 (Thank you for your vote in November, now let us get to work!)
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To: SES1066

Yah. That really shows how much the depth of field can get compressed when using long lenses.


19 posted on 01/22/2011 9:20:14 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: oh8eleven
Have never heard the term "Deeping." I assume it's a town or province?

It is in East of England and the term is from Saxon which translates to deep places or lands. "The Deepings is a collective term used to describe adjoining villages near the River Welland, 8 miles to the north of Peterborough and 10 miles or so east of Stamford in England. The area is just north of the Peterborough border in the Lincolnshire fens.

20 posted on 01/22/2011 9:23:41 AM PST by SES1066 (Thank you for your vote in November, now let us get to work!)
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