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1 posted on 01/22/2011 8:06:36 AM PST by tobyhill
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CFL, Alar, fat in food, saccrine, autism + vaccines,green jobs these all examples of stupid left studies that got it wrong and have RUINED peoples lives... Too bad a few Republicans in congress don’t turn the light of these false programs on the DemocRATS and make them pay for false testimony.


59 posted on 01/22/2011 9:16:48 AM PST by q_an_a (a)
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Compact fluorescent lamps "...offer energy savings of about 75% over traditional incandescent light bulbs."

But cost 750% more.

Government subsidies don't reduce the cost, they only transfer some of that cost to other taxpayers via the government who borrows money from China to finance the subsidy.

In 10 to 15 years there will be a panic about rising mercury levels in groundwater that will be traced to the disposal of compact fluorescent lamps. The government will mount a multi-billion dollar environmental clean-up plan. There will be a movement to eliminate compact fluorescent lamps and go back to incandescents. But incandescents will be rare and costly because there will be almost no manufacturing plants making them.


62 posted on 01/22/2011 9:25:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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Any savings in power consumption (assuming there really is any) will be lost to clean up costs of using a light bulb that contains toxic mercury. Very very bad idea.


70 posted on 01/22/2011 9:59:07 AM PST by jpsb
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Most of the CFLs don’t work well with dimmers. And I saw on one manufacturer’s site that their bulbs should not be installed in sockects pointing downward, like recessed lighting in ceilings. You can get CFLs designed for these services, but how many people read enough to know about these issues?

That might explain some of the short life spans and poor performance that people complain about.

We have a CFL in a recessed ceiling fixture. The thing we don’t like about it is it takes a few minutes for the bulb to get to full brightness. When you first turn it on, the light is very dim.


72 posted on 01/22/2011 10:09:01 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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and all that mercury going in to the landfills is OK now???
75 posted on 01/22/2011 10:23:16 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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I switched to CFLs many years ago. I first used them in fixtures that were hard to reach and/or used for many hours a night without on/off cycles (outdoor lighting). I switched most of the indoor lighting too now, except the bathroom, where there are alot of on/off cycles daily. I have no problem with them, they are more convenient, and save me money in two ways, less $$ for lighting, and less $$ for cooling.


79 posted on 01/22/2011 10:43:03 AM PST by Paradox (Palin, the female Rush. I wish she would stay that way.)
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Alexander Graham Bell is turning over in his grave!


88 posted on 01/22/2011 1:01:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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California’s utilities are **spending** $548 million over seven years to subsidize consumer purchases of compact fluorescent lamps.
Now I know why my electric rate has increased by 5% this year.


91 posted on 01/22/2011 1:27:01 PM PST by Vaduz
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Another reason is that the bulbs are burning out faster than expected.

I'd make an even stronger statement. The "expected" bulb life is a lie. They just put out a bogus high number to justify the policy.

106 posted on 01/23/2011 9:45:24 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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We have to SAVE electricity so we can charge up electric cars that need to be babysat every 8 hours...


109 posted on 01/24/2011 3:31:20 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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