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To: butterdezillion

Gotcha.

It is beginning to look, no matter from what angle you are looking at, that Obama cannot claim or PROVE any birth place at all. Legally speaking.

Heh, If just ONE state puts a law into effect requiring PROOF of Natural Born Citizenship in order to get on the states POTUS ballot Obama is utterly screwed.

Maybe that is exactly what we should be pushing for regardless.


117 posted on 01/20/2011 11:21:08 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimh)
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To: Danae

Yes.

One thing we know already though, and that is that government agencies at this point are 4 for 4 on being willing to falsify, forge, and/or publicly lie about documents for Obama’s sake. Passport Office, Social Security Administration, Selective Service Administration, and Hawaii DOH have all already been implicated - and they are the only government agencies which claim to have any records for Obama.

Any bill that requires documentation to be presented needs to include a requirement that the transaction logs for that record also be disclosed so that forgeries won’t work.

I just saw a thread this morning about somebody caught creating false documents for illegal aliens. We had a bust for that right here in my town a while back. And government workers in various offices and levels have been caught taking bribes. It’s all over the place.

Here’s a link to the bill I’d like states to pass: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2656925/posts

And here’s a link to a thread where we’re trying to make sure the most promising states get a bill introduced: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2659760/posts

I’ve tried to ping as many people as I can remember, but I’m feeling kind of alone because nobody is pinging others to these threads. I already missed the Nebraska deadline, unless I try to get a committee to recommend the bill, and the particular committee is headed by a leftist so that’s unlikely. We’re running into deadlines so it’s urgent.

The bill I’m recommending is based on the “2-citizen-parent and born in the country” interpretation of “natural born citizen” so that the courts have to decide on the Constitutionality of it, thus providing a definition of NBC. There’s a severability clause to allow the documentation provisions to remain in effect even while the definition of NBC is challenged in court.

The bill should be something that everybody can get behind, except those who want to allow forgeries, don’t want NBC to be defined by the courts, or want SOS’s to be able to disobey the law without consequence.


119 posted on 01/20/2011 11:37:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Danae

“Heh, If just ONE state puts a law into effect requiring PROOF of Natural Born Citizenship in order to get on the states POTUS”

Yes, but we also NEED to have the courts define “natural born citizen”. Well before the next election, otherwise
whether or not a candidate meets NBC requirements will depend on the state to interpret.
We have a country full of dolts that think an anchor baby and a natural born citizen and a dual citizen are all the exact same thing.

I keep thinking there must be more reference in many old books/writings. There has to be more out there that was written about it at the time.


128 posted on 01/20/2011 12:31:57 PM PST by Ladysforest
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