Where can I start? Occam’s Razor?
The overwhelming proof, from multiple sources, that the killer was a loony paranoid schizophrenic, applied logically in your thinking, makes you conclude that -— there was a nefarious plot, and one where - in some manner you can’t even begin to explain — the media is IN ON the plot!!! Every one of them. They collectively got the instruction from the ringmasters to ignore Judge Roll’s death, and they’re following it.
I repeat, now to both of you — you’re insane.
;-) jk
I just observe, and what I observe is that there are major discrepancies in this story and its reporting. And there’s been probable disinformation from AZ lawmaker Linda Lopez, Napolitano’s DHS, White House operatives, fake Facebook pages, and Sheriff Dupnik (further quoted by Obama). That’s based on the discrepancies in the reports - including discrepancies involving why and how Judge Roll came to be at the event, which is critical to the issue of whether the FBI can even investigate that death.
I’ll respond to your accusation that I’m crazy in another post, but in this one I want to give some of the discrepancies that first led me to believe that the story we’re getting isn’t necessarily even internally consistent. Try answering these questions and you will understand that I’m not building conspiracies out of thin air but basing my thoughts on an analysis of the discrepancies I’ve observed:
1. Where did Jared Loughner live - with his parents, or on his own?
2. How many bullets did he fire? 30, 31, 33?
3. Did his gun jam or not?
4. Were the people in line sitting on chairs, or standing?
5. Who subscribed Giffords to Loughner’s videos?
6. Who found the envelope saying “I planned ahead”, “assassination”, and “Giffords”, when, and where?
7. Who found the letter from Giffords, when, and where? Did it have “Die Bitch” written on it, or not?
8. Was Jared associated with American Renaissance or not?
9. Is American Renaissance anti-Jew or not?
10. Did Judge Roll drop by on his way home from Mass as Sheriff Dupnik said, or did he leave from home at 9:55am as his aide said?
11. Did Judge Roll call his wife on his way home from Mass to say he would drop in in Giffords?
12. Is Roll’s church “just around the corner”, as Sheriff Dupnik said, or is it closer to the University as indicated on Google Maps?
13. Was Judge Roll’s decision to attend the event spontaneous as Sheriff Dupnik said, or was it planned ahead for business purposes as the FBI Agent’s affidavit says?
14. On what evidence did the FBI agent base his claims about Judge Roll’s plans? What was his source? Why did he file an affidavit without stating how he had personal knowledge?
15. WAs Giffords shot in the temple, the back, or the front? How long did it take for the story to change, and on what basis was it changed?
16. Did Loughner visit a Walgreens next to the Safewy during the night, or one closer to his own home?
17. Did Dupnik major in psychology? Did he believe that Loughner was mentally ill - either now or in the years before now?
18. On what was the suspicion of an accomplice based? Just the cab driver running away, or something more? If lots of people were running away, why was the cab driver’s running away suspicious?
19. Where did Jared Loughner get the ability to post mind control video?
20. Schizophrenics are not usually violent. Why did Jared do so much target practice?
21. Why did Jared want his change back from the cab driver after posting a farewell video the night before?
22. Why would he write a note saying “I planned ahead...assassination...Giffords” if he planned to kill Giffords, which would make it obvious? If he planned specifically an assassination and his own suicide, why did neither he nor his “target” die but Judge Roll had a bullet to his aorta?
23. How many schizophrenics plan a crazy venture, as opposed to being driven against their will by the illness? Was this a premeditated attack, or a schizophrenic bout?
I’ve got several irons in the fire right now, but I intend to respond to your suggestions that I’m crazy in another post to you. I don’t even pretend to be an expert on guns, schizophrenia, or mind control, although I’ll touch on those things in the next post. What caught my attention in all this is the discrepancies that nobody seems to care too much about. It’s a lot easier to just go with the flow. You don’t get called crazy if you go with the flow. But I do place a lot of importance on facts, and I haven’t figured out how to reconcile these conflicting “factual” claims.
I’ve also had an FBI worker lie to me for political reasons so that suggests that the integrity of their investigations can easily be compromised - especially when they are under the headship of the same Eric Holder whose DOJ for political reasons and at his direction won’t investigate minority individuals who commit crimes.
Now. About being crazy because I believe there is a possibility that Judge Roll was the real target...
You seem to think that I must be delusional if I think that mind control can happen. There were 2 people at that event who believed in the power of mind control - Jared Loughner, and James Eric Fuller. Both act like crazy people, but then the way that mind control can be done in plain sight without people seeing it is because it looks very much like insanity, from what I’ve read.
And for some sources which say what kinds of mind control exist and the evidence for it, you can look at http://www.stateside.com/FactPad/2011-Bill-Introduction-Deadlines-FactPad-Insert%20(3).pdf . I haven’t checked over all the sources so I don’t vouch for them, but if the quotes are accurate from the sources then there’s much more to be learned on this subject. To dismiss it out-of-hand because it sounds crazy wouldn’t be intellectually honest. It WOULD be what the practitioners of mind control would want you to think though..... lol.
From the accounts regarding Loughner, he was definitely confused. That looks to us like schizophrenia. I’ve done some reading on schizophrenia. Just going by what I’ve read, somebody who plans a violent rampage doesn’t sound like a schizophrenic, unless mind-altering drugs are involved - which can make a schizophrenic turn violent.
Jared Loughner did use drugs, if the accounts of him are correct. Marijuana and meth, IIRC. I don’t know if he was still using them when he planned his attack, or if using them before could still impact him now. Interesting that the thing that may have sparked his violence is not political rhetoric, but the same thing that California has just made legal and other states are wanting to do the same: marijuana. The same thing that the Mexican president is urging the US to make legal.
Now THAT’s crazy. When is the media going to touch that issue? lol. They won’t. It doesn’t fit the template, and they don’t care whether marijuana can turn schizophrenics into crazed mass murderers. Just like they’ve never cared if porn could turn the statistically-few psychologically-vulnerable people into serial rapist/killers.
They need to do an investigation of what was going on with Jared Loughner. And with James Eric Fuller. I’m not the expert who can unravel this. And the people who are experts should not be writing off any possibility except on the basis of the evidence. The fact that there are so many discrepancies or holes in the official story line we’re getting doesn’t inspire confidence in me.
That’s not because I’m crazy, but because I have an epistemology mostly based on factual evidence. When the story doesn’t add up it makes me wonder what the truth is.